Bristol Riots

Azza · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:25

Sad, sad little people.

Nitefly · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:26

Fenris said:
There is nothing wrong with St Pauls, it's a lovely area, it hasn't been a place to avoid for over a decade.

I'd rather you walked around there at night than me :eek:

Saying that, it was Montpellier where a guy asked for my phone then waved a syringe at me as some sort of drunken threat.

Dolph · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:31

Absolutely vile and disgusting behaviour by the lunatic left claiming they represent the majority will. Here's a hint people, if you can only get your point heard through violence, you represent no-one but yourselves you obnoxious, self-righteous *****.

RDM · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:31

Biohazard said:
Why is England such a violent nation though?

We don't have the sectarian divide to focus our violence on more specific targets so are just more generally violent rather than specifically violent.

Jez · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:33

Dolph said:
Absolutely vile and disgusting behaviour by the lunatic left claiming they represent the majority will. Here's a hint people, if you can only get your point heard through violence, you represent no-one but yourselves you obnoxious, self-righteous *****.

Easiest just to leave these scum to stay in these areas i guess. If they wish to stop the area developing then so be it as long as they dont impact people who have managed to move on and get the hell out

The shame is that in the process our tax money is spent fixing the polices vehicles and that officers get injured.

Al Vallario · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:37

Superewza said:
Finally a half decent point. Of course, it ignores the fact that violence against corporate property and violence against living beings are completely different things, but still

...yet both are prohibited by law, and so they should be

Dolph · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:38

Jez said:
Easiest just to leave these scum to stay in these areas i guess. If they wish to stop the area developing then so be it as long as they dont impact people who have managed to move on and get the hell out The shame is that in the process our tax money is spent fixing the polices vehicles and that officers get injured.

The shame is this sort of thing tends to be organised and yet isn't classified as terrorism, and those on the left tend to like giving them cover through 'marches' and the like that always end the same way, and yet they are never held even partly responsible...

Dolph · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:42

Superewza said:
Finally a half decent point. Of course, it ignores the fact that violence against corporate property and violence against living beings are completely different things, but still

Both are illegal, and both should be heavily punished. You also need to just acknowledge there is no difference between property owners, whether corporate or individual in terms of the legal protection that is provided to them.

Still, given your highly authoritarian tendencies I'm not surprised you support the violence of the few over the rights of the many....

Biohazard · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:56

Castiel said:
I'm not digging up dirt, history is history, and the Scots have ample historical acts of crowd violence, both modern and otherwise.

Anyway let us limit it to whatever you wish.

There is very few examples of crowd violence in modern Scotland.

Castiel said:
Because you are stating that being Scottish means that you are less likely to riot or protest violently than the English.

As a group, yes.

Castiel said:
This just isn't true. Geographical location has little to do with the demographic make-up of the rioters or protesters.

It normally does dependent on the action.

Castiel said:
You would have to show that in protests where organised Scottish protesters (like the students earlier)have participated that they have eschewed violence even when the English contingent have not.

Out of all the examples in recent history in England it has most of the time been English people.

Castiel said:
You cannot do this, so your contention that being Scottish means that you are less inclined toward violence to put your point across fails.

I don't think it does at all.

I just want to know why we differ in our mentality.

Biohazard · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:57

RDM said:
We don't have the sectarian divide to focus our violence on more specific targets so are just more generally violent rather than specifically violent.

Hmm, but that doesn't make sense for the whole of scotland as sectarianism is not exclusive too but is highly concentrated in one area.

Other area's like the East coast don't have similar problems, and don't outburst elsewhere either.

Biohazard · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:58

Dolph said:
The shame is this sort of thing tends to be organised and yet isn't classified as terrorism, and those on the left tend to like giving them cover through 'marches' and the like that always end the same way, and yet they are never held even partly responsible...

So people on the right don't argue for democratic freedom by group assembly either, no?

I never realised it was all so clear cut, Dolph.

RDM · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:58

Biohazard said:
Hmm, but that doesn't make sense for the whole of scotland as sectarianism is not exclusive too but is highly concentrated in one area.

Other area's like the East coast don't have similar problems, and don't outburst elsewhere either.

I was making groundless sweeping generalisations, it seemed to be the in thing to do...

Biohazard · 22 Apr 2011 at 18:59

RDM said:
I was making groundless sweeping generalisations, it seemed to be the in thing to do...

I'm not casting this on the whole of England and its population, but certain demographics do continually use violence where as this trend isn't replicated elsewhere.

Energize · 22 Apr 2011 at 19:03

While direct action is sometimes justifiable and riots necessary, I can't believe this happened over a shop which could have been easily boycotted, or that people are defending it.

Dolph · 22 Apr 2011 at 19:04

Biohazard said:
So people on the right don't argue for democratic freedom by group assembly either, no?

I never realised it was all so clear cut, Dolph.

By smashing up property when the majority doesn't agree with their twisted world view? Generally not in the UK.

Biohazard · 22 Apr 2011 at 19:04

Energize said:
While direct action is sometimes justifiable and riots necessary, I can't believe this happened over a shop which could have been easily boycotted, or that people are defending it.

Agreed.

Biohazard · 22 Apr 2011 at 19:06

Dolph said:
By smashing up property when the majority doesn't agree with their twisted world view? Generally not in the UK.

Never said that.

But you imply that a lot of the 'left' support this, absolute tosh.

What is smashing up Tesco express going to achieve?

Cuchulain · 22 Apr 2011 at 19:08

Biohazard said:
I'm not casting this on the whole of England and its population, but certain demographics do continually use violence where as this trend isn't replicated elsewhere.

What is your obsession with the English? Are you Scottish by any chance as you sound VERY bitter?

In Northern Ireland, every summer, we have endless day's and nights of rioting (serious rioting, the kind with petrol bombs, guns, everything on fire kind of thing) all over the province yet you focus on England as the worst UK nation for this kind of behaviour? I can't fathom it ..

Duke · 22 Apr 2011 at 19:10

Unwashed scum.

Biohazard · 22 Apr 2011 at 19:12

Cuchulain said:
What is your obsession with the English? Are you Scottish by any chance as you sound VERY bitter?

I would be bitter that my nation isn't generally violent at any given excuse would I?

It's got nothing to do with my nationality at all, I wanted to see if anyone could offer a valid explanation for the likes of this witnessed time and time again in England with no explanation.

Cuchulain said:
In Northern Ireland, every summer, we have endless day's and nights of rioting (serious rioting, the kind with petrol bombs, guns, everything on fire kind of thing) all over the province yet you focus on England as the worst UK nation for this kind of behaviour? I can't fathom it ..

Ireland has historical sectarian problems sometimes splitting communities in half that it can be in part attributed too, which has a circular violence effect through its communities.

NI doesn't have an excuse either, but it has a bit more of a problem. It is also another topic of discussion.