Caporegime
The security forces, republicans and loyalists all had their part to play in atrocities commited over here, some people tend to harbour grievances for a long time, and pass them on to the next generation.
Britain out of Ireland!
- Thread starter Sickboy
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You dont need to quote stuff man, the republicans called in a bomb scare in belfast today, where I get my lunch. The rudeness!!
Had to go elsewhere..
Absolutely, I completely agree. But for the families of the victims involved in some of the Irish tragedies, it doesn't bring them back. They'll still be angry at the people/country/organisation behind the attacks, just like British families affected in the attacks you mentioned.
I was just trying to point out that the statement "get over it" that's bandied around so often in these discussions, won't apply to certain people for quite some time.
LA Galaxy are a MLS soccer club, who play within a nationally recognised league which is affiliated to CONCACAF association so they are both American as in the commonly used description for the United States (you wouldn't refer to a Brazilian as an American would you) and are associated to the wider North and Central American/Caribbean association which is in turn associated to FIFA.
Barcelona are a Spanish team that compete in Europe, again there is a European league as there is also a European Association UEFA.
Britain does not have an association, neither is it recognised as a single entity in regards to association football, thus there are no British Football teams, they are designated by the FA of the country in which they are registered to.
In Celtic's case that is Scotland.
Name me one player who has played for Great Britain in association football....
You are arguing the case for the sake of sematics. The point stands, Glasgow Celtic are a Scottish football team. Since Scotland is part of Great Britain, Celtic are also a British football team, just like any other British football team, whether they play in the English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish leagues.
Britain and it's constituent parts are recognised as a union and individual countries, there is no such recognition for association football.
Celtic have no affiliation to the other Countries in the Union whatsoever, they are only affiliated with the Scottish FA. This makes them a Scottish and not a British club.
Simply put, there is no recognition of a single entity called Britain (or more accurately the UK) in international association football.
Firstly, your not my pal and cut the hyperbole.
The ONS would say that of course, but that wasn't the argument I was making.
heophany said:
I think most Scot's, on whatever political agenda, are more aware of their own sitation than you are.
Pal.
Soldato
Can you get a Scottish passport?
FIFA don't recognise Britain as an affiliate association - but that wasn't what we were talking about. Celtic can be described as a Scottish club OR a British club OR a European club.
Nope. Semantics or not, they are not British, they are only recognised officially as being members of their respective Football Associations and should be referred to as such.
By your logic, they are British because Scotland is in Britain, thus they are European because they are in Britain which is in Europe, they must also belong to the world as Europe is but a continent and ultimately Celtic are universal as everything resides within the known Universe.
Which is daft, Celtic is a Scottish football team simply because there is no recognition of a British entity in football.
Otherwise the Scottish Parliament is actually the British Parliament as Scotland is in Britain, that is clearly ludicrous, as is saying Celtic are British.
Again, more semantics.
Soldato
Yes it is. Why is this so hard to understand?
Have you never seen a newspaper refer to a champions league game between a scottish team and an english team as a "Battle of Britain"?
Celtic themselves are proud of the fact that they were the first British team to win the European cup.
Ireland isn't in Britain.
Celitc?
Celtic can be described accurately as a Scottish club as they are affiliated to a recognised Scottish (not British) association, they can be described as a European Club as they are affiliated to UEFA which is the European Association.
There is no British Association, thus they are simply not British.
Because it's in Britain, and a pun on the historical event?
Doesn't mean when you are in Britain you call them British. There is no single league.
Ireland isn't in Britain.
Ireland is part of the British Isles.
Soldato
Celtic even refer to themselves as a British side on their own website
http://www.celticfc.net/about_briefhistory
http://www.celticfc.net/about_briefhistory