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NickK said:
I don't know any of you have seen this:


New drone related degree as the UK attempt to upskill on what's been learnt from Ukraine.
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I'm lucky to be able to go to DSEI every two years (a UK defence and armaments show). I'm not in the armed forces at all, purely a civilian. But it's fascinating to see the drone technology on display each time. Last time they had air and sea drones. This year I noticed a few land drones too. No doubt some of it is/has been tested in Ukraine.
 
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Two Army officers to face court martial over handling of Jaysley Beck sexual assault case

Gunner Beck, 19, was found dead at her barracks at Larkhill camp in Wiltshire in 2021. She had complained she had been sexually assaulted.
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Its good to see the officers in command at the time of this tragedy actually have to answer for this in some way at least. They were quite happy to just sweep it under the rug at the time. Hopefully their pensions get the same treatment. They had the power to deal with this properly at the time, they chose to protect the predator rather than young Jaysley.

Col Sam was our CO back 10 year ago or so. I didnt rate her has a CO. Lovely lass but from our perspective her priorities were completely in the wrong place and the Regt fell to pieces under her command.
 
Don't get these comments about someone being a lovely lass or nice guy.. you're talking from emotions rather than logic. Seen other instances where someone has commited a crime and people are like ohh he's a lovely lad, well why's he commited a crime then? There's forgiveness for some people but not others.. double standards and no discipline.

If stuff was sweeped under the rug that's appalling and in this instance could have saved a life.

Part of the problem is letting things pass and slide instead of holding people accountable.
 
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dacads said:
Don't get these comments about someone being a lovely lass or nice guy.
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Alright mate whatever. She genuinely was. I worte that because that was my genuine experience of her. She was really friendly, mothering type, handed out CO's grant days, CO's coins like they were going out of fashion, **** she'd even bake a cake and bring it over if she was visiting your department...
She was however NOT a good Commander in my opinion and this clearly went on to show in very clear and tragic circumstances. Both things can be true. Hopefully she will be held accountable.
 
One of the many reasons the UK military has gone so wrong, too busy building LGBTQXYZ rainbow crossings, ticking all the D&I boxes iot get their next promotion, instead of being a Commander.

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Jaysley Beck: Ex-sergeant jailed for sexual assault on soldier

Michael Webber admitted sexually assaulting Jaysley Beck, 19, who later took her own life.
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Gunner Beck claimed Webber said he had been "waiting for a moment for them to be alone" before grabbing her leg, pinning her down, and trying to kiss her. This guy got an MAA and was later promoted to WO1! Only through the family pursuing this was he eventually sentenced to six months in prison (he will serve three) and to be recorded on the sex offender’s register for seven years.

What grips me is 2 senior officers did try to sweep this under the rug, the Major who thought she was trying to get out of an exercise and a Colonel who said she didn't think it was sexual assault, but now does. Absolute BS, we have annual mandatory D&I trg and have done for many years and her herself as a woman and top of the chain in the Unit cannot claim she did not know that being pinned down, grabbing your leg and trying to kiss you was not sexual assault.

Their pensions won't get touched, but being hauled in front of a Court Martial in a very media interested event, i hope they get the book thrown at them. The only losers are Jaysley and her family.
 
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