Soldato
I wonder which teams don't use FRIC suspension systems?
British Grand Prix 2014, Silverstone - Race 9/19
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Soldato
Thanks.
All this talk from the FIA about saving money on V6 FARTS now want the teams to spend millions on a new suspension system?
Why don't the teams\Drivers just turn round and say "up yours" to the FIA.
First test of a interconnected damper system that I know of was in 1999. Was significantly simpler than the current systems, but did essentially the same thing.
Massive payoff from Prost GP that one was. Only ran it for one test too. Decided not to race the system as they weren't sure it was legal and decided to buy the design and bury it instead. Shame.
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There is no advantage to performance in making this proposed change. In fact with tyre warmers going next year "on cost grounds" 
why is this even being considered?
why is this even being considered?There is no advantage to performance in making this proposed change. In fact with tyre warmers going next year "on cost grounds"
Pirelli want something more relevant to their consumer products, hence the trial. Paul Hembery has said any change to dimensions is unlikely before 2017.
Also Michelin have shown interest if the sport started using dimensions that resemble a road product.
Current cake tin looks comically small in these wheels:
Bit like some clown throwing huge rims on their corsa with drum brakes. Wonder how they would look with brakes scaled to the right size and if we would see them glowing like the WRC.
Bit like some clown throwing huge rims on their corsa with drum brakes. Wonder how they would look with brakes scaled to the right size and if we would see them glowing like the WRC.
Soldato
Like a pimp.
Soldato
Yep, looks ****. But if it leads to more mechanical grip and better racing, I'll get over it!
Soldato
Not a big fan of that look, but i'm sure i could get used to it easy enough.
anyone with any technical F1 knowledge, Is this likely to increase wheel weights significantly? also which design will be easier to maintain tire temps/pressures?
anyone with any technical F1 knowledge, Is this likely to increase wheel weights significantly? also which design will be easier to maintain tire temps/pressures?
Soldato
I think the wheels look good, when you see them side by side the 18" looks 'normal' with the 13" looking comically small.
Regarding the possible banning of FRIC, I really don't understand it but maybe I am being dense. The Autosport article says
Yes the FRIC influences the aero but as suspension to do its job cannot be rigidly secured to the sprung part of the car without any degree of freedom surely FRIC cannot be banned under Article 3.15?
Regarding the possible banning of FRIC, I really don't understand it but maybe I am being dense. The Autosport article says
Yes the FRIC influences the aero but as suspension to do its job cannot be rigidly secured to the sprung part of the car without any degree of freedom surely FRIC cannot be banned under Article 3.15?
Man of Honour
Mass dampers were banned under the same rule....
What I don't get is why the rush to ban it for Germany? What happened to the idea of banning things like this at the end of the season so that teams actually got some benefit from their efforts?
What I don't get is why the rush to ban it for Germany? What happened to the idea of banning things like this at the end of the season so that teams actually got some benefit from their efforts?
Soldato
Those 18" wheels look stupid, what is the point of them?
It's going to make the ride very uncomfortably for the drivers.
It's going to make the ride very uncomfortably for the drivers.
Soldato
I've said for years that on a purely pedantic level any form of suspension constitutes a moveable aerodynamic device under that description. Trying to enforce that would make a mockery of the poorly worded rules though so it doesn't happen and the teams just push the boundaries and every now and again the FIA have to try and rein them in a little bit.
Soldato
Soldato
It's not suddenly banned as it's covered under existing regulations. "Movable aerodynamic devices" have been banned for a couple of decades (at least), so it's already banned in reality. What's changed is that the FIA now understand it and have deemed it could (and should?) be classified under moveable aerodynamic devices, leaving it open to protest.
The only alternative is that all teams agree among themselves that they leave it for now (the sensible decision - but since when has F1 been about sense?).