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Broke in 2 - my AMD 6000+ X2 - Fixable?
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Seen it many times with Solder IHS removals going bad.
But I dont get thread as nobody is dumb enough to think its fixable, thats why I did not reply till now.
But I dont get thread as nobody is dumb enough to think its fixable, thats why I did not reply till now.
OK this topic really deserves some pictures, sorry for the long wait. You can all inspect and tell me if the core really has been ripped out, confirmation would be nice. But I'm pretty sure it looks beyond help/repair.
See link above each image to full size original photo.
CPU section
Side showing the pins, some of these were bent, but I bent them back with a tiny flat headed screwdriver.
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50023.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50049.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50015.JPG
Heat Cap Section
Cap placed on top of the CPU loose just for the photo. There was a thermal square pad on there before which had sealed like superglue having cooled for some weeks.
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50011.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50046.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50014.JPG
Both Side By Side
You can see the dark blob areas on each part where each part would have been joined together.
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50020.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50019.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50033.JPG
See link above each image to full size original photo.
CPU section
Side showing the pins, some of these were bent, but I bent them back with a tiny flat headed screwdriver.
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50023.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50049.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50015.JPG
Heat Cap Section
Cap placed on top of the CPU loose just for the photo. There was a thermal square pad on there before which had sealed like superglue having cooled for some weeks.
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50011.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50046.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50014.JPG
Both Side By Side
You can see the dark blob areas on each part where each part would have been joined together.
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50020.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50019.JPG
Full Size: http://www.acidtechno.net/images/SSA50033.JPG
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Wow that is one mangled chip... im intrigued to whether it can be saved though
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woops.
whoops indeed 
I know I should have heated it beforehand before trying to remove but the problem was the motherboard it was on was failing to start and I was going to send the motherboard back to where I bought it. Didn't have a hairdryer either, lol.
I was impatient that day and wasn't thinking straight, problems with various hardware had me tired (especially the MSI K9N ultra mobo) and I'm not sure why I went and tried to do a lifting action like I did with a flathead screwdriver which resulted in it splitting in half (cpu flying off without core attached). After that happened I did the twist method that I should have done in the first place and it (heat cap half with core on) came off after a few wrist actions and the powerful grip of a metal gripping tool that was big enough to wrap around the edge of the cpu - left hand holding the heatsink pushing forward direction and right hand holding the gripping tool pushing heatcap in backwards direction - was tough work.
Goes to show, if you plan to remove a cpu from a heatsink do it while it's still warm. Not sure if there's any difference between pads and paste.. pads might seal tighter than paste. The pad was one of 2 I got from ebay.
to finish the story I bought a cheap amd athlon 64 cpu to test on the MSI motherboard that wouldn't start and the motherboard worked fine with that new cpu so maybe the 6000+ was the problem after all and was dead before I broke it?
it can't have been anything else because I'm still using the same components in my new build (asus p5n-d and intel e8400 are the new components). Same PSU is powering this machine, I won't rule the PSU out though because it had a few weeks rest, if the same thing happens again then I'll know it wasn't the 6000+ but the hiper at fault.
it's all fun and games eh?
I know I should have heated it beforehand before trying to remove but the problem was the motherboard it was on was failing to start and I was going to send the motherboard back to where I bought it. Didn't have a hairdryer either, lol.
I was impatient that day and wasn't thinking straight, problems with various hardware had me tired (especially the MSI K9N ultra mobo) and I'm not sure why I went and tried to do a lifting action like I did with a flathead screwdriver which resulted in it splitting in half (cpu flying off without core attached). After that happened I did the twist method that I should have done in the first place and it (heat cap half with core on) came off after a few wrist actions and the powerful grip of a metal gripping tool that was big enough to wrap around the edge of the cpu - left hand holding the heatsink pushing forward direction and right hand holding the gripping tool pushing heatcap in backwards direction - was tough work.
Goes to show, if you plan to remove a cpu from a heatsink do it while it's still warm. Not sure if there's any difference between pads and paste.. pads might seal tighter than paste. The pad was one of 2 I got from ebay.
to finish the story I bought a cheap amd athlon 64 cpu to test on the MSI motherboard that wouldn't start and the motherboard worked fine with that new cpu so maybe the 6000+ was the problem after all and was dead before I broke it?
it can't have been anything else because I'm still using the same components in my new build (asus p5n-d and intel e8400 are the new components). Same PSU is powering this machine, I won't rule the PSU out though because it had a few weeks rest, if the same thing happens again then I'll know it wasn't the 6000+ but the hiper at fault.
it's all fun and games eh?
christ on a bike! thats amazing!
well I'm totally convinced its unfixable but I'd personally be prepared to have it out with AMD that that just shouldn't happen.
You normally need to take a razorblade to that black adhesive stuff around the IHS to have a hope of getting them off so that just shouldn't have happened.
well I'm totally convinced its unfixable but I'd personally be prepared to have it out with AMD that that just shouldn't happen.
You normally need to take a razorblade to that black adhesive stuff around the IHS to have a hope of getting them off so that just shouldn't have happened.
how come there is a massive cut on the underside of the heatspreader across one of the edges, and also a little chunk off one of the corners also?
i'm guessing you did this when removing it from the heatsink????
well AMD might replace the processor as this shouldn't happen so it's worth a shot, the fact that the rubber compound on the pcb is untouched holds you in good stead for a complaint i think.
jimmybates - no chance of rescue btw
i'm guessing you did this when removing it from the heatsink????
well AMD might replace the processor as this shouldn't happen so it's worth a shot, the fact that the rubber compound on the pcb is untouched holds you in good stead for a complaint i think.
jimmybates - no chance of rescue btw
the dent and cut and the chunk missing happened during the final twist removal attempts when using a pair of metal grips, I tried putting some paper between the gripping teeth and the heatspreader but it shredded the paper anyway and damaged the heatspreader, I couldn't put too much material between the grips or else it was slipping off. The area on the bottom of the amd heatsink/fan unit also suffered a few scratches.
I don't think I have any chance of getting a replacement, I did the damage, and I had used a replacement thermal pad, not from amd.. and that's what caused it to seal so tight.
I don't really want to use the 6000+ model again because it's such a power hog, it was a great cpu though for me for a year or so. The intel offerings were getting better by the day with the E8400 beating the 6000+ in tests (both being 3 ghz chips) and the nice fact it's 45nm vs 90nm, runs cooler and uses less power. So I was happy to *upgrade* to the E8400.
Was sad to change to intel though after having been with amd for a few years and supporting the little guy, but times change.
It probably makes me look a bit of a nub mutilating it in such a way but we all need a laugh sometimes and I'm going to laugh that silly moment away
safe to throw in the bin I guess?
I don't think I have any chance of getting a replacement, I did the damage, and I had used a replacement thermal pad, not from amd.. and that's what caused it to seal so tight.
I don't really want to use the 6000+ model again because it's such a power hog, it was a great cpu though for me for a year or so. The intel offerings were getting better by the day with the E8400 beating the 6000+ in tests (both being 3 ghz chips) and the nice fact it's 45nm vs 90nm, runs cooler and uses less power. So I was happy to *upgrade* to the E8400.
Was sad to change to intel though after having been with amd for a few years and supporting the little guy, but times change.
It probably makes me look a bit of a nub mutilating it in such a way but we all need a laugh sometimes and I'm going to laugh that silly moment away
safe to throw in the bin I guess?
Thats insane..
Like Matt100 has said, the IHS shouldn't come away from the processor like that and it usualy takes a razor blade and a lot of time to remove them !
I suppose the Core has come away with the IHS because they were using solder at the later stage IIRC to get better thermal conduction between chip and IHS.. I'm sure matt can confirm this
Like Matt100 has said, the IHS shouldn't come away from the processor like that and it usualy takes a razor blade and a lot of time to remove them !
I suppose the Core has come away with the IHS because they were using solder at the later stage IIRC to get better thermal conduction between chip and IHS.. I'm sure matt can confirm this