BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

Rroff · 2 Sep 2021 at 09:27

andy_mk3 said:
The upload is a big limitation for me right now with cloud Backups, with a 6mb upload I have to be very selective as to what I backup otherwise it'll not finish in the night and leave me with unusable Internet the next day.

Is that 6MByte/s or MBit/s? one of the reasons I've supplemented the FTTC with a 4G sim is that it gets ~30+Mbit/s upload which is useful for syncing stuff - we only get 5-6MBit/s upload here on the FTTC never mind the ~19MBit/s on the 80/20 product at our old house.

andy_mk3 · 2 Sep 2021 at 15:18

Rroff said:
Is that 6MByte/s or MBit/s? one of the reasons I've supplemented the FTTC with a 4G sim is that it gets ~30+Mbit/s upload which is useful for syncing stuff - we only get 5-6MBit/s upload here on the FTTC never mind the ~19MBit/s on the 80/20 product at our old house.

That's 6MBit/s, I wouldn't be complaining so much if it was the other, my download isn't even much beyond 3MByte/s.

We're waiting to complete on a house which already has FTTP so not too much longer of having to put up with it. Will probably go with the 500Mb package.

Steven Rimmington · 3 Sep 2021 at 13:34

I'm after getting a Gigabit switch as the BT Hub only has 3 usable ports, thinking of something cheap like the TP-Link TL-SG105S for around £10?

ChrisD. · 3 Sep 2021 at 13:37

As long as it's Gigabit and has enough ports there really isn't much else to look into.

Andr3w · 3 Sep 2021 at 17:18

From this information what speeds do you think I could get at my new house? I was guessing around 60+mb?

b0rn2sk8 · 3 Sep 2021 at 17:21

Count yourself lucky if you get mid to upper 40s, anything above that will be a bonus.

Caged · 3 Sep 2021 at 17:27

60 is about right if the line is in decent condition. You'd know for sure if you could get a sync figure from someone who lives there already.

Andr3w · 3 Sep 2021 at 17:32

b0rn2sk8 said:
Count yourself lucky if you get mid to upper 40s, anything above that will be a bonus.

Yeh they're saying 40mb....why? The data looks loads higher than my current place and I get 50mb at the moment.

Caged said:
60 is about right if the line is in decent condition. You'd know for sure if you could get a sync figure from someone who lives there already.

Theyre saying 40 with a guarentee of 22mb.

EDIT:
This is my current house. Just done speedtest.net and got 45.8mb Down and 6.8mb Up

andy_mk3 · 3 Sep 2021 at 17:36

It just varies location to location really, there's lots of factors that can change the sync speed. At least when moving you shouldn't be any worse off though.

Andr3w · 3 Sep 2021 at 17:41

andy_mk3 said:
It just varies location to location really, there's lots of factors that can change the sync speed. At least when moving you shouldn't be any worse off though.

So the information provided by BTwholesale above ^^ doesn't really give me any indication?

andy_mk3 · 3 Sep 2021 at 17:46

Andr3w said:
So the information provided by BTwholesale above ^^ doesn't really give me any indication?

Well you should get anything between 44-70mb, there's the odd case that falls outside of this though.

Andr3w · 3 Sep 2021 at 17:53

andy_mk3 said:
Well you should get anything between 44-70mb, there's the odd case that falls outside of this though.

This is what I thought, but 2 BT people have bascially said 40 if you're very lucky, expect low 30's

According to https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm:

Currently 2km from cabinet at current address and get 45mb
New address 1km from cabinet (with details above) and BT think i'll struggle to get 40!

It's all very confusing. From the data I can see it should be as you suggest 40-70.

b0rn2sk8 · 3 Sep 2021 at 17:56

There is more to it than distance though, the quality of the copper, any repairs/junction boxes, cross talk etc.

Presumably they have data from the existing occupier which is why they are quoting that number.

ChrisD. · 3 Sep 2021 at 18:12

You'll get what you get between 44-70 Mbps and there's nothing you can do about it until it gets FTTP.

andy_mk3 · 3 Sep 2021 at 18:42

Andr3w said:
This is what I thought, but 2 BT people have bascially said 40 if you're very lucky, expect low 30's

According to https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm:

Currently 2km from cabinet at current address and get 45mb
New address 1km from cabinet (with details above) and BT think i'll struggle to get 40!

It's all very confusing. From the data I can see it should be as you suggest 40-70.

Pretty sure BT are just covering their arse and not giving you grounds to complain for low speeds

There's a very good chance you should see 50-60 really.

Caged · 3 Sep 2021 at 21:21

For what it's worth, the BT Wholesale checker estimates between 53.2 and 73.4Mbps down and between 13.5 and 19.9Mbps up. BT's website where you'd actually buy the FTTC service from estimates 45 to 50Mbps, with an upload between 8 and 9Mbps, and won't let me buy Fibre 2 (the 80Mbps product), which is what I currently have.

My router is synced at 69Mbps down and 18.5Mbps up.

But as people have said, everything is an estimate until the service goes in. You might have a dodgy joint somewhere, or rubbish internal cabling.

andy_mk3 · 5 Sep 2021 at 13:26

Anyone with Vodafone FTTP? Their 500mb package at £35/m is vastly cheaper than anyone else. Something to avoid or not?

Edit: Majority of reviews online are pretty terrible.

Steven Rimmington · 5 Sep 2021 at 23:00

ChrisD. said:
As long as it's Gigabit and has enough ports there really isn't much else to look into.

Thanks did just get the cheapest on Amazon the TPLink one. Was worried it may crap out or freeze. So far it's been spot on.

ic1male · 6 Sep 2021 at 10:29

When they install a new fibre line to your house, this is rated for 1Gbps (at least) isn't it? I'm thinking of signing up to BT Ultrafast but only at 500Mbits for now. If I wanted to upgrade it to 900Mbits in a year, that's possible without any shenanigans? I assume it would mean the contract would reset to another two years though.

b0rn2sk8 · 6 Sep 2021 at 10:44

Yes that is correct.