BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

Why would it be more than ADSL24's top package? Be will be handling the traffic once it hits the exchange. You can't compare the two. TalkTalk's Plus Fibre package is slightly cheaper than BT's and uses similar traffic management. I'd add £15-20 to TalkTalk's package.
 
Be are not laying their own fibre network, they are using BT wholesale. Unmetered and unthrottled wholesale? expensive..

Pretty sure Talktalk have Opal wholesale?
 
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Sad to leave Be, but they were so slow with their fttc plans, & my connection so slow, BT Infinity was irresistible.

Annoying BT signs you into a 18 month contract, but I would find a way around that if BE offered fftc package say in six months or so.
 
I'd like to see a FTTC product without the DLM, so you could actually get close to your sync rate and not be capped to the IP profile, would allow for tweaking SNR etc.
 
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cp88 said:
Be are not laying their own fibre network, they are using BT wholesale. Unmetered and unthrottled wholesale? expensive..

Pretty sure Talktalk have Opal wholesale?
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They're not going to be using plain old BT wholesale.

http://blog.bethere.co.uk/2011/09/update-on-fibre.html

For this reason, we are looking to trial a solution where we create more of the network for BE by installing more of our own equipment into the local exchange. Although it’s more complex it could work better in the long run.
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I think TalkTalk is using VULA.

http://beusergroup.co.uk/technotes/index.php?title=GEA
http://blog.broadbandpolicy.co.uk/2011/02/ofcom-update-wla-slu-llu-pia-vula-gea.html
 
KIA said:
Why would it be more than ADSL24's top package? Be will be handling the traffic once it hits the exchange. You can't compare the two. TalkTalk's Plus Fibre package is slightly cheaper than BT's and uses similar traffic management. I'd add £15-20 to TalkTalk's package.
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No way. Don't talktalk get annoyed if you use 80GB+ on their unlimited packages?
 
cp88 said:
I'd like to see a FTTC product without the DLM, so you could actually get close to your sync rate and not be capped to the IP profile, would allow for tweaking SNR etc.
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it won't happen, and it won't need to once vectoring takes places.
 
Locky said:
it won't happen, and it won't need to once vectoring takes places.
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what is vectoring?

quick google:

"In brief, vectoring is a computationally-intensive technique that estimates and corrects crosstalk errors. As a consequence, it can enable a line to achieve speeds close to the theoretical maximum for their length. The paper contains some nice illustrations of this. "
 
Just to check things then:

Torrent throttling: At what times of day and down to what level?
Usenet throttling: Nothing at the moment at any time of day?

Any trottling from "legit" downloads like steam?
 
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Just to check things then:

Torrent throttling: At what times of day and down to what level?
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4pm - midnight severely throttled i.e. unusable. Otherwise downloads seem unthrottled. Uploads are always capped (150KB/s ??).

Usenet throttling: Nothing at the moment at any time of day?

Any trottling from "legit" downloads like steam?
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Never experienced throttling for SSL Usenet and never for normal downloads.
 
so, the street cabinets are popping up in Shrewsbury with the "fast internet available signs". How long until it goes live? Samknows state March 2012 - Cant be right surely?
 
Our cab didn't show up that long ago and we're getting it now so you might get lucky and they'll roll it out sooner :)

Seems like they are speeding up the deployment of Infinity so shouldn't be long!
 
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