BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion
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Of course it's still on, it's not even 24 hours since you had it installed.
Various people have all said the same thing to you. Namely it's down to the DLM to turn it off and that could take a few days.
I thought that was pretty self explanatory until I see you on the BT community forums this morning asking them to turn Interleaving off
Hehe, nice post griff on the bt forum 
Of course it's still on, it's not even 24 hours since you had it installed.
Various people have all said the same thing to you. Namely it's down to the DLM to turn it off and that could take a few days.
I thought that was pretty self explanatory until I see you on the BT community forums this morning asking them to turn Interleaving off
Hehe, nice post griff on the bt forum
Cheers. Some people just baffle me. Various people all offer advice and help. You explain (to someone who apparently works in networking) what interleaving is, what DLM is, how it could take time to be removed, how it might never be removed depending on the line quality and so on and so on..
Next morning all that help and advice is ignored and he's asking on the BT forum for interleaving to be turned off! Yeah two seconds.. I'll find a forum mod to press the big "interleaving off" button for you
Of course it's still on, it's not even 24 hours since you had it installed.
Various people have all said the same thing to you. Namely it's down to the DLM to turn it off and that could take a few days.
I thought that was pretty self explanatory until I see you on the BT community forums this morning asking them to turn Interleaving off
The OR engineer told me to ask on there, so I did. Whether it achieves anything or not, is irrelevant to you anyway.
Need a ladder for your high horse?
As useful as your posts in this thread are, your somewhat cantankerous attitude isn't very welcome at all.
The OR engineer told me to ask on there, so I did. Whether it achieves anything or not, is irrelevant to you anyway.
Need a ladder for your high horse?
As useful as your posts in this thread are, your somewhat cantankerous attitude isn't very welcome at all.
It doesn't bother me in the slightest if you ignore my help or not.
What does bother me is when I see multiple individuals trying to offer you help and advice, which I see to be correct, only for their efforts to be ignored.
You've seen from the subsequent replies on the BT forum, some of which were a lot more "cantankerous" than me, that you should have listened to your fellow OCUK'ers yesterday and then you wouldn't have people on the BT forum passing some of the comments they are.
In future I'll note your request and pass over your posts. If my post(s) caused offence then naturally I apologise. They weren't intended that way, merely reflecting my annoyances.
Perhaps you should have a read of your previous posts in this thread, I've noticed over the past couple of weeks that your posts are done from a very high horse. You lack of response over any questions I may have, due to your attitude, is most welcome. However in saying this I thank you for your informed posts, just not your manor. Also, I'm not the only person who has mentioned this within this thread.
As I have stated both on here and on the BT forum, the Openreach engineer told me to post it on the BT forum, so I did.
So anyway, this is my connection.
The spikes before midnight were Usenet downloads, and the one at midnight was an upload to YouTube.
I think I will wait a few days before hammering the connection in the hope that interleaving is turned off. As I've said, the OR engineer said I should ask on the BT forum as the helpful chaps from India on the phone wouldn't be much help. If they can't turn it off because of the DLM software, then maybe he was mistaken. I don't know, I'm just doing as suggested.
Although I'm from a Networking background, it is predominantly in an datacenter environment managing multiple Cisco routers and switches for a worldwide network. I have never worked on any form of commercial broadband circuits, be it cable, ADSL or FTTC. My networking comment was merely to do with the "have you connected via Ethernet as wireless gives different speeds" comment. Also, I think it's pretty obvious to say that interleaving is turned on. Some of the posts on there within my thread, such as "18ms is good enough" make me laugh. Give me sub 10 any day, competitive gamers do notice the difference IMO, especially if there is jitter on the line.
The spikes before midnight were Usenet downloads, and the one at midnight was an upload to YouTube.
I think I will wait a few days before hammering the connection in the hope that interleaving is turned off. As I've said, the OR engineer said I should ask on the BT forum as the helpful chaps from India on the phone wouldn't be much help. If they can't turn it off because of the DLM software, then maybe he was mistaken. I don't know, I'm just doing as suggested.
Although I'm from a Networking background, it is predominantly in an datacenter environment managing multiple Cisco routers and switches for a worldwide network. I have never worked on any form of commercial broadband circuits, be it cable, ADSL or FTTC. My networking comment was merely to do with the "have you connected via Ethernet as wireless gives different speeds" comment. Also, I think it's pretty obvious to say that interleaving is turned on. Some of the posts on there within my thread, such as "18ms is good enough" make me laugh. Give me sub 10 any day, competitive gamers do notice the difference IMO, especially if there is jitter on the line.
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Just to clarify, and to try and be helpful, the FTTC DLM is operated by Openreach, not BT as it is in the case of ADSL. How true it is I can't say but Openreach insist there is no manual "override" and it's completely automated which is why they've simply turned you away when you asked for interleaving to be turned off.
Don't turn the modem off unless absolutely necessary and give it a few days. When the DLM makes a change you'll see a very thing red spike on the TBBQM and a "step" appear as the level of interleaving changes and your latency changes.
I'll try and find an example of a DLM change on a TBBQM and edit this post.
EDIT - My historic TBBQM graphs weren't archived so I can't access them to provide an example.
Don't turn the modem off unless absolutely necessary and give it a few days. When the DLM makes a change you'll see a very thing red spike on the TBBQM and a "step" appear as the level of interleaving changes and your latency changes.
I'll try and find an example of a DLM change on a TBBQM and edit this post.
EDIT - My historic TBBQM graphs weren't archived so I can't access them to provide an example.