BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion
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Did you have to pay the fee for install?
That is a good deal - very tempting with only a 12 month contract as well.
I'm surprised Ofcom doesn't look at it because it's basically a cartel - all the providers seem to raise their line rental prices at the same rate as you have no choice but to take it (yes I know VM technically allow you not to but they price broadband without line rental so high as to make it unviable)
A colleague, on my recommendation, has just ordered 50Mb broadband from VM at £5pm for 12 months with £60 cash back, so basically just paying line rental and "free" broadband. It's a right racket.
Yeah even the cheapest line rental deals around work out as £13/mo - I remember seeing deals working out as £9/mo only two years ago. Plusnet's line rental saver rose from £155 to £185 last September, it's outrageous. Particularly when wholesale prices from Openreach have fallen in the last 10 years or so.
I paid a £57 setup fee which included the postage for getting the homehub. They didnt charge me for reconnecting the line (just bought a house).
just found out I also get £50 back on their reward mastercard which I can claim once the service is active so that'll wipe the setup fee ! awesome
just found out I also get £50 back on their reward mastercard which I can claim once the service is active so that'll wipe the setup fee ! awesome
The hikes are madness this is what happens when you hand BT millions of taxpayer cash in a rollout without any guarantees of decency in pricing. I mean christ sake i have the phone unhooked i only use broadband yet they just took £196 just in copper rental alone. £458 a year just to get broadband from the scum and this is a special deal for 80mb 40mb costs the same.
Ofcom are suposed to get a grip on this line rental scam, I do not want it, I am just subsidising people who take up the free calls.
Ofcom are suposed to get a grip on this line rental scam, I do not want it, I am just subsidising people who take up the free calls.
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You want to use the line (and broadband only qualifies as using the line), but you don't want to pay for it? If the line you don't think you're using develops as fault I assume you'd expect someone to come and fix it for you?
It seems to me that the line rental charges are subsiding the cost of the broadband, and it's the people that only have POTS who are really getting shafted.
It seems to me that the line rental charges are subsiding the cost of the broadband, and it's the people that only have POTS who are really getting shafted.
I'm in the same camp as Bremen. It annoys me that people think they aren't using the line when using broadband only adsl/vdsl service. Think bigger than just the line usage, look at the development and infrastructure behind the line that your broadband service comes down, all that needs maintenance and development doesn't it?
Of course it does but I think the point is that line rental is creeping up at an alarming rate whilst the broadband which is supplied over them is offered a insane prices.
It's a marketing trick so they can promote their dirt-cheap broadband and conveniently hide the price of the line rental in the small print. If you take broadband then it doesn't really matter how the total cost is divided between the broadband and the line itself but, as someone said above, it's those who just have a phone line or can only get very slow broadband who are really getting shafted. If you're unable to get fibre services then it's bad enough having to suffer the awful speeds without being forced to subsidise everyone else's fibre services.
Correct, and that's why it's stupid. Wholesale costs of line rental have dropped a fair bit in the last 5-6 years, yet retail prices have nearly doubled. ISPs originally did it so they could hide their real prices in adverts but now they have to say what the line rental cost is anyway it's a bit pointless.
I will be switching to plusnet using the early out on this latest price rise. BT offered me a 30% discount on my 76mb product but that still makes it more expensive than plusnet....
plusnet line rental is cheaper too, why would anyone stay with BT.
plusnet line rental is cheaper too, why would anyone stay with BT.
BT Sport is cheaper with BT than with Plusnet. For me it worked out roughly the same to get line rental + 80 Mb/s FTTC + BT Sport HD from either company. I switched because BT's retention deal was terrible (more expensive than what I was actually paying before I left) and Plusnet offered cashback. Might switch back to BT if they work out cheaper with cashback once my Plusnet contract runs out.
If you don't want BT TV or BT Sport then yes, it seems to make no sense to stay with BT.
If you are correct explain why Ofcom are discussing naked FTTX then? It is obviously a scam my copper run is only 150m dude so after that i use fibre... Which i pay or would be paying £30pm. So there is thier money for that they need to give a slice of that over to Openreach if they manage the network. But that network would be fibre not copper, It is only copper for 150m so unless line rental is somehow both? But explain why im forced to take and pay for line rental saver? Free calls im subsidising which i do not want. It is therefor a complete scam to take £196 just for managing my fttx signal going over 150m of phone line.
This is why they will not offer up FTTP also, They want to keep the scam going and people who defend it are just sheep and the same kind of people who gave them millions in the first place. Heck in N.I we had to give them 50% of the value of the rollout of which was added to the network of a private company instead of maybe them renting it from us haha. So you say to me im complaining yet running to them when the line breaks, Well are they not at the same game asking for grants to rollout?
Aye lol cmon now trying to defend BT the same BT who can find a billion by magic for BT Sport Uefa rights? We need more noise about seizing them and thier assets if they are not going to stop taking £196 annually off people. Infact does the rise not make it now break the £200 barrier it certainly does if you pay monthly i am saving and paying upfront to get £196.
This is why they will not offer up FTTP also, They want to keep the scam going and people who defend it are just sheep and the same kind of people who gave them millions in the first place. Heck in N.I we had to give them 50% of the value of the rollout of which was added to the network of a private company instead of maybe them renting it from us haha. So you say to me im complaining yet running to them when the line breaks, Well are they not at the same game asking for grants to rollout?
Aye lol cmon now trying to defend BT the same BT who can find a billion by magic for BT Sport Uefa rights? We need more noise about seizing them and thier assets if they are not going to stop taking £196 annually off people. Infact does the rise not make it now break the £200 barrier it certainly does if you pay monthly i am saving and paying upfront to get £196.
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