BT/Openreach rant!!!

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How hard can it be to move a phone line?

Arranged with BT for an engineer to call and move my phone line from one building to another

5th December: Took the afternoon off work for the engineer to turn up and ask me that he would be unable to move the line as the new building was higher than the old one. He said that a site survey should have been carried out before he was sent there.

10th December: Survey team poke around my property while I was at work with no prior warning

7th January: Take the afternoon off work to meet the engineers... who didn't bother showing up. A message was left on my mobile saying that they would phone me on the 8th to discuss the delay.

Try to go online but find that my internet does not work as the connection on the old line has been turned off.

8th January: Received no phone call as promised but do receive a text message apologising for the delay and to email delay.management@ to discuss the matter further. Have not received any replies to the two emails I sent them.

9th January: Phone up the helpline who put back in touch with sales. After much cajoling get them to arrange that my old phone line be re-connected, but with a different number as this has been moved to the line which has yet to be connected. This will be done by the end of the 12th January, which I also have to pay for. This will be refunded when I cancel it.

Confirmation email says that the line will be activated on the 15th January

12th January: Did not receive a telephone call from an engineer as promised

13th January: Contacted BT to tell them of their broken promise. Told that Openreach would confirm by Friday that the necessary re-routing of cabling has been done and that an appointment would be made for next week for the line to installed at the premises.

16th January: BT phoned and said that all necessary re-routing of cabling had been done. A third visit has been arranged for Tuesday.

18th January: Sent a diagram and lengthy email to delay.management explaining why I don't think that the necessary work has been carried out and for them to double-check that it has before I waste another afternoon off work waiting for an engineer to turn up and say that he is unable to proceed

19th January: Received no reply from the email sent yesterday. Contacted BT via their online chat. Asked them to phone me back after 1.30pm as I was at work. Received no phonecall. Contacted again via chat asking for a call back only to be put through to another call centre in India. I gave up at this point as I was at work

Received a call at 18:20 from a UK Call Centre telling me that they had received the email and had been assured by Openreach that all necessary work had been done that that the line will be installed tomorrow as planned.

20th January: Received a phone call at 16:00 from a call centre telling me that an engineer had been trying to contact me but had now left the area and would not be keeping the appointment. Received no call on my mobile, which has always been the number BT use to contact me. Dialling 1471 on the temporary line at the old premises logs a call at 13:30 from a number I do not recognise. No message was left on the answer phone.

21st January: Received a phone call at 6.00 pm from a call centre apologising for yesterday's missed appointment. The engineer has told them that he knocked on the door and left a card stating so. No card was posted through my letterbox. An new afternoon appointment has been made for Friday 23rd.

23rd January: Received a phone call at 16:30 from an engineer asking whether my phone line is now up and running as his notes indicate that an engineer has been at the house, installed the line and faceplate and left.

24th January: Posted this diary on the moneysavingexpert forums in a thread dedicated to BT complaints. A BT representative posted asking me contact him.

26th January: Missed a call to mobile. Message on answerphone tells me it's with regard to the diary I posted on the mse forums and that I would be contacted on Wednesday to arrange anther engineer visit.

Send another email to delay.management@ stating that I had no intention of wasting another afternoon waiting for a visit only for them to tell me that I had no cabling at the property. Send another sitemap of the property and surrounding area indicating the lack of cabling.

27th January: Receive a phonecall at 10am from an Openreach engineer asking for directions to the property.
Receive a phonecall at 5.30pm from a call centre telling me that another site survey is being arranged and that they have received my email. They were unaware of the engineer's call to me in the morning.

28th January: An Openreach van is parked at the base of the pole outside the property. A man is pointing up at the sky between the two poles where no cable exists.

30th January: Missed a call at 13.10. Phone the call centre to be told that the a new pole needs to erected and this should be done by 13th February. Asked for thme to move my old number back to the old property so that I would have internet access again and was told that this would cancel the entire order and pole work. Offered free 30 days on their BT-FON network which I was assured I would be able to connect to even though I live in a remote area in a building with 2 foot thick walls.

11th February: Receive a call from my case manager in Dundee asking me whether I am now happy that my telephone line is working. His case note show that the engineer has been at the property and showed my partner, a Ms Hughes, that it was all up and running. When I told him that I lived alone, I was then asked whether I knew of a Ms Hughes in the area who has recently had a telephone installed. Has promised to call me back by the end of the day with an explanation which he did not do.

12th February: Case manager rang and appeared to be as clueless to the situation as everyone else I have spoken to thus far. Again, enquired whether I lived with a Ms Hughes and then asked the same questions that I have already answered numerous times with other people. When asked as to whether the outside pole and cabling work would be done tomorrow as promised, he did not know.

13th February: No pole or cabling work has been carried out.

16th February: Received an email from BT congratulating me on my new order. I have been assigned a telephone number (I now have three) and an engineer is popping round on the 2nd March to install the box faceplate and cabling inside the house.

18th February: Phone up the Dundee Call Centre and speak to a very apologetic and sincere worker telling me that they have messed this up. Have asked them to scrap everything and to start again with a site survey, which will be fast-tracked and should be completed within five working days. Again enquire whether they can give me my old number back so that I can access the internet. The request has been put in my case notes.

20th February: Receive a call from the Dundee call centre telling me that I need to take another afternoon off work so that the engineer can turn and 'officially' log that he is unable to carry out the work and that a site survey needs to be done. If this does not happen then Openreach will charge me for the survey.

2nd March: Openreach engineer turns up, confirms that a new pole is required and leaves.

3rd March: Receive a phonecall from BT telling me that Openreach have agreed that a new pole is needed and will be done by the 25th March

17th March: A new pole has been erected near the property. No cabling work has been done.


TLDR: BT/Openreach are a bunch of timewasters
 
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This will be refunded when I cancel it.

lol.... what will happen is that when you come to ask for the refund they will deny ever saying it and want full payment for the remainder of the contract.

Best bet is to email the CEO of bt uk and get on the executive complaints team.. they are UK based and actually get things done.

When i did it was warren buckey i think... have a look here

http://phonebt.com/bt-complaints/
 
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Biggest bunch of con artists on the planet.
I would never go back to Bombay Telecom, 6 months suffering after I switched my internet service from them to Sky.
I was still under contract to them for line rental so every month they would cut the line off for non payment of a broadband bill that was being paid to sky, some days it was 4 hours on my mobile phone just to get them to understand that I was not their customer but had switched to Sky and every month they promised me it was resolved and would not happen again, they finally figured it out after 6 months but between the " you owe us the money and your service will not be resumed till you pay it" and the people in an Indian call centre asking "do you speak English" happy times were not had. The moment my line contract ran out with them I dumped them as fast as possible.
 
They are absolute clowns. I had this issue when I was getting BT infinity installed. Explained how important it was to have internet for my work and that I couldn't have any downtime moving from sky to bt and they said that was fine, there wouldn't be.

A day and a half before the line was meant to move over and be installed I happened to check their website and I find that they are changing the line over on the initial date but not installing the service for another week. Didn't bother to tell me, strung me along for the whole week saying they would try to push it forwards till someone eventually told me that there was never a hope in hell of that happening as their system doesn't allow them to book things less than a week in advance.

Made my blood boil but there is nothing you can do but move to another equally **** company.
 
India put me through to a centre in England once I started asking them to cancel everything. Seems there's a note on my case file to waive the connection fee.

But a week+ without a telephone/broadband because one hand's not talking to the other.

And the day and half off work, minimum. I know that they'll need to re-route the line further up the road and come back down another set of poles before they'll be able to connect to the new build. Doubt they'll manage that between 1-6pm. I think I'll get them to do that before I turn up
 
I have had Fibre installed twice, and had the engineer not turn up both times.

Openreach have no public facing customer support and so just hide away from their appalling service. Best bet is to email the CEO. I've done this twice and got a Saturday engineer visit both times.

I'm prepping myself for another one as I'm moving house this weekend and have an Openreach engineer visit booked for Monday.... lets see if its 3rd time lucky!
 
Another here that switched from BT to Sky. They are an absolute joke. Scheduled a technician 3 times and never shown up. When they do send out a technician he tells me he used to work in the navy and is only qualified for the electrical side of it. So when I go to complain to him that BT are throttling me down to less than 1mbps he has no bloody idea what I'm talking about. Google fiber needs to come to the UK and just thrash everyone else. Screw HS2, We need high speed internet.
 
Openreach are shocking, I had 2 missed appointments, two wasted days off work switching from O2 adsl2 to plusnet FTTC.

Quite why they need an 'engineer' to enter the house to install a faceplate and a modem is beyond me.
 
Someone somewhere pulled their finger out. Telephone line is now active. But, of course, my internet connection is on the old number. Contacted my ISP to see if they can temporarily move it to this new number
 
Speaking to most of these broadband 'providers' makes me feel like im on an episode of Phonejacker talking to service providing's. I live in the middle of nowhere and the best speed I can get it 6MB (which it never is), the UK is getting left in the dust when it comes to telecoms.
 
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Speaking to most of these broadband 'providers' makes me feel like im on an episode of Phonejacker talking to service providing's. I live in the middle of nowhere and the best speed I can get it 6MB (which it never is), the UK is getting left in the dust when it comes to telecoms.

Same here, although my tiny ass village is getting fibre within the next 3 months so at least the Scottish government is pulling the finger out. :)
 
Should have used Sky. Everyone knows they are the only ones to use actual real engineers.
 
I had fibre installed in October 2013. The engineer turned up on time and I was connected within 30 mins. A couple of days later I got an email from Zen saying the I would be charged for a missed appointment. Turns out the engineer didn't sign off the job as completed. Zen cancelled the charge and I assumed that was the end of it. About a week later I had a phone call from another openreach engineer saying that he would be round in 10 mins to install my fibre connection. He was confused to hear that it was already installed. He came round as I was in anyway and just signed it off straight away. He commented how ironic it was that a communications company isn't able to communicate with itself
 
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