But the law can't catch up, hell its hard enough to keep up with software innovation even if you work in the industry. A record label or a legal prifesional has no chance!
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But the law can't catch up, hell its hard enough to keep up with software innovation even if you work in the industry. A record label or a legal prifesional has no chance!
how were you stung, are you stung every time a computer component is released as you purchased something else two months ago.
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Piracy has lead me to make a lot of purchases I never would have (mainly tv box sets and some great movies).
When was the last time you saw any "artist" driving around in a 1990's Ford Fiesta. I fail to believe that piracy has an impact on the industry, in fact id go as far as to say that it actually boosts sales of GOOD content.
When was the last time you saw any "artist" driving around in a 1990's Ford Fiesta. I fail to believe that piracy has an impact on the industry, in fact id go as far as to say that it actually boosts sales of GOOD content.
unless 3d printers starting including billion dollar lithography fabs and smelters i think that's a rather silly thing to say isn't it?
Why can't it catch up? It can certainly catch up on illegal downloading.
why can't the people who own this media offer it at a similar cost to access newsgroups (which the vast majority of pirates are willing to pay) plus the subscription cost to subscribe to newsgroup search engines for full HD versions of the films?
This is not rocket science for these companies to understand.
Yes Netflix et al are all great services, but they do not offer HD content that is DRM free that the people who own the copy can play on their PS3/360/Blu Ray player etc on all the latest stuff, this is now what people want.
Once this is understood by these people in higher power then they will realise how dumb they have been all these years and their profit will grow massively!
This is not rocket science for these companies to understand.
Yes Netflix et al are all great services, but they do not offer HD content that is DRM free that the people who own the copy can play on their PS3/360/Blu Ray player etc on all the latest stuff, this is now what people want.
Once this is understood by these people in higher power then they will realise how dumb they have been all these years and their profit will grow massively!
But how do you propose they could do that without creating a high-quality version that could be easily distributed between people, either in person or over the internet?
That kind of option, with no DRM will not do them any favours because the same people who don't pay for material by downloading pirate copies now will continue to pay nothing and get the top quality versions.
Why?
3d printers are coming along, now they aren't going to be released any time soon. But they can already make components and electrical circuits.
How about start of with something easier. A plastic computer case, can you have someone's deisgn for free?
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You already can
They're scared, same as they were scared of video recorders and whatnot.
And, at the end of the day, it is cheaper to litigate and lobby, than to offer an alternative model at a different price.
But you're wrongly assuming that making it a criminal offense will create a massive increase of sales of movies games and music. I'm also aware that it won't criminalise everyone, that wasn't the point. My point was that it would mean that they're going to waste time and money trying to monitor people for piracy so they can try to get criminal convictions. This isn't to the benefit of anyone other than the egos of record and movie industry bosses.
How are you going to make an oven with a 3D printer from illegal "blueprints"(they're not blueprints)? I see the point you're trying to make, but it's extremely flawed. Plus, if we had 3D printers that were capable of making ovens, I'd be very surprised if there weren't any technical drawings and CAD files for public domain designs.
It's like saying ban sheet music, and guitar tabs/make it illegal because people will stop buying music, they'll just learn an instrument and record their own cover albums.
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Yeah, it's a shame too. With the internet becoming so integral to culture these days everything is becoming more and more decentralised. You can't teach these old dogs new tricks.
I don't understand the problem, and I don't think you truly understand what you're saying.
Take a 3D printer out of the equation, are you saying it's wrong for me to make a replica of a computer case that I like from pictures of it on the internet? It's not exactly hard to approximate the dimensions of say a computer case, to make a CAD drawing of, to make your own version of. How on earth is this "wrong"?
That's like saying I wouldn't download illegal music, as there's plenty of non copyright music. Guess what that doesn't happen.
How is it a flaw dargument.
It's not just massive record companies. It's damaging an entire Market, jobs, economy and is ever spreading as people don't see it as wrong as it's not a criminal offence, so it's legal. Which it isn't.
And yes sales would increase, most down alders would buy if it was a matter of buy or go without. They don't do it out of any noble reasons. Other than you can as it's cheap and easy with almost no chance of anything happening.
How is it a flaw dargument.
It's not just massive record companies. It's damaging an entire Market, jobs, economy and is ever spreading as people don't see it as wrong as it's not a criminal offence, so it's legal. Which it isn't.
And yes sales would increase, most down alders would buy if it was a matter of buy or go without. They don't do it out of any noble reasons. Other than you can as it's cheap and easy with almost no chance of anything happening.
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Exactly, for most it's not a choice between buying it and pirating it - it's a choice between pirating it and forgetting about it. And i think you'll find that quite a few 'artists' enjoy the wider audience that it allows their work to reach.
Because they're penny picking.
If you spend £20 on a Blu-Ray you don't expect a repacked version to be out in a months time with extra content you can't watch without buying the whole film again. You're punished for being an early adopter.
It wouldn't be as bad if you paid for a Blu-Ray and then they offered you an upgrade for a few extra pounds for the additional content but that doesn't happen. They want you to spend the whole £20 again and they know a lot of film fans will do it because they want to see that extra content.
As I said before, it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
Ah yes, be uase if companies delivered what you want you would pay.
I mean we have high faulty drm free music and cheap.
We have cheap streaming services of all you can eat(spottily and others).
Guess what they delivered what people want and yet people haven't switched.
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