BT ordered to block pirate links

That's like saying I wouldn't download illegal music, as there's plenty of non copyright music. Guess what that doesn't happen.

How is it a flaw dargument.
it's just as flawed and daft as your 3D printer argument.

It's not just massive record companies. It's damaging an entire Market, jobs, economy and is ever spreading as people don't see it as wrong as it's not a criminal offence, so it's legal. Which it isn't.

How? :confused:

And yes sales would increase, most down alders would buy if it was a matter of buy or go without. They don't do it out of any noble reasons. Other than you can as it's cheap and easy with almost no chance of anything happening.

No, you're assuming this, you and I don't know if sales would increase a little bit, a massive amount, or not at all. Just because it's made illegal, doesn't mean people will suddenly stop, notice how there are still drug addicts around? The attitude to a lot of drugs is extremely casual, I can't see people suddenly becoming serious over copyright infringement just because it's been classed as criminal.
 
But how do you propose they could do that without creating a high-quality version that could be easily distributed between people, either in person or over the internet?

That kind of option, with no DRM will not do them any favours because the same people who don't pay for material by downloading pirate copies now will continue to pay nothing and get the top quality versions.

That content is already out there. They tried to say the same thing about DRM free music.

"If we offer DRM free music, it will be uploaded to the internet and everyone will just download it instead."

I could be wrong, but when Apple and other serves started to offer DRM free music, I don't think piracy rates shot up. If anything I'd put money on more people using iTunes.
 
Just like any other business. It is no different to any other Market.

Gfx card realised. You pay premium to buy on release day. 8weeks latter an official over clocked version comes out. Oh your so hard done by.

An official overclocked version where we're able to reach the same clocks with the release cards we have, yet another poor analogy from you. :o
 
Why?
3d printers are coming along, now they aren't going to be released any time soon. But they can already make components and electrical circuits.

How about start of with something easier. A plastic computer case, can you have someone's deisgn for free?

because commercial ovens use chips made though lithography if a 3d printer contains the ability to make ic's that printer will cost more than your house.

If it has the ability for it to also produce sheet metal, and dozens of other components from dozens of materials then lets face it at that point the entire economy of the world will have changed.
 
Just like any other business. It is no different to any other Market.

Gfx card realised. You pay premium to buy on release day. 8weeks latter an official over clocked version comes out. Oh your so hard done by.

Not at all, that original card you bought on release day can be overclocked to the same levels as the one released 8 weeks later. The only difference might be the newer card might have a different fan. But you can buy a fan and fit it yourself. I can't buy that additional content that was offered on the new Blu-Ray though, that's the point.
 
That content is already out there. They tried to say the same thing about DRM free music.

"If we offer DRM free music, it will be uploaded to the internet and everyone will just download it instead."

I could be wrong, but when Apple and other serves started to offer DRM free music, I don't think piracy rates shot up. If anything I'd put money on more people using iTunes.

It's never really been about "lost sales" that's just an incredibly convenient excuse, it's all about control. They want, or rather feel the need to control the content that is produced by their companies, that's why they really didn't want to do DRM free media, but it's proven to be hurting them with people not wanting to buy DRM media, they've simply realised it's to their benefit to release the control on MP3s.
 
An official overclocked version where we're able to reach the same clocks with the release cards we have, yet another poor analogy from you. :o

No, it maybe able to be over clocked. It doesn't mean it can all won't have problems, as well as warranty. It is a perfectly good analogy.
 
because commercial ovens use chips made though lithography if a 3d printer contains the ability to make ic's that printer will cost more than your house.

If it has the ability for it to also produce sheet metal, and dozens of other components from dozens of materials then lets face it at that point the entire economy of the world will have changed.

And the principle of the idea and analogy is wrong how?
 
It's never really been about "lost sales" that's just an incredibly convenient excuse, it's all about control. They want, or rather feel the need to control the content that is produced by their companies, that's why they really didn't want to do DRM free media, but it's proven to be hurting them with people not wanting to buy DRM media, they've simply realised it's to their benefit to release the control on MP3s.

Hopefully they'll realise soon enough blocking content based on demographics and not releasing DRM free Blu-Ray movies is a stupid idea and is hurting them just as much.
 
Ah yes, becuase if companies delivered what you want you would pay.
I already do pay for all my music/movies, all my games, all my non opensource software :confused:

I mean we have high faulty drm free music and cheap.
We have cheap streaming services of all you can eat(spottily and others).

Guess what they delivered what people want and yet people haven't switched.
If people haven't switched, isn't it obvious they haven't delivered what people want?
 
No, it maybe able to be over clocked. It doesn't mean it can all won't have problems, as well as warranty. It is a perfectly good analogy.

Overclocking doesn't void your warranty, reglardless of what the manufacturer claims, and who's saying your factory overclocked card won't have problems? I remember many cases of BFG and EVGA factory overclocked cards being unstable until downclocked to the standard version clocks.

Your analogy is broken.
 
All ISP's should also be made to block all porn sites, that would annoy 90% of forum users here!! lol
 
And the principle of the idea and analogy is wrong how?

Because your principle seems to centre around companies being entitled to sell their products and make money just because.

As I said, I could make my own PC case from scratch, copying the design from pictures from say, Silverstone's website, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this, regardless if it results in me not buying a case from Silverstone, but ending up with a case that looks identical.
 
You keep saying that, you haven't showed how.

How about a new tv screen panel. Same case same everything else. But a different panel is used. Should you be able to just upgrade the panel.

I did in my last post if you go back and read it :)

If not I'll repeat it here.

The standard card can be overclocked to the same levels as the newer overclocked card. The original Blu-Ray can't be upgraded to included the same content as the repackaged Blu-Ray.

Hence the poor analogy.
 
Because they're penny picking.

If you spend £20 on a Blu-Ray you don't expect a repacked version to be out in a months time with extra content you can't watch without buying the whole film again. You're punished for being an early adopter.

It wouldn't be as bad if you paid for a Blu-Ray and then they offered you an upgrade for a few extra pounds for the additional content but that doesn't happen. They want you to spend the whole £20 again and they know a lot of film fans will do it because they want to see that extra content.

As I said before, it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

If you want them to stop packing extra content at extra cost, stop paying the extra cost for the extra content.
 
You keep saying that, you haven't showed how.

How about a new tv screen panel. Same case same everything else. But a different panel is used. Should you be able to just upgrade the panel.

I've already shown how it's a rubbish analogy. If it's a different panel that is superior to the previous one, it's a new model, even if it is in the same enclosure. You really don't seem to understand analogies.
 
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