BT ordered to block pirate links

stockhausen · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:17

Tummy said:
...Also; How to ISP's make money out of Piracy?

Let's put it this way - as a result of this ruling, some people will move from BT to other ISPs (probably NOT Sky

). BT will lose that revenue / money and someone else will gain it . . . by virtue of facilitating piracy - QED.

If your local pub allowed drug dealers to operate form the premises, it might be seen as a USP, encouraging people to drop in for a pint when they needed to score, thereby profiting from drug dealing, no?

Stretch · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:17

Bye BT.

the_r_sole · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:18

i'd imagine bt make loads of money out of piracy in contracts like my old one where their "unlimited" service is seriously limited and then they charge you by the gb after a certain amount...
if bt do go ahead with this, i'd imagine they will lose loads of business unless every isp is made to block sites be interesting to see how it pans out, my reckoning is that it won't actually happen

Danthus · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:18

If I buy a Staley Knife and slash someone are Stanley at fault for providing me with the knife?

fez · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:19

How do some people continue to post such rubbish opinions in the face of almost universal ridicule. Do they genuinely believe that they are right and 99% of other people are wrong.

Christ stockhausen, just engage your brain before giving a brief and idiotic view.

Combat squirrel · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:19

simulatorman said:
Bye bye to what, your ability to download pirated movies?

Freedom of speech and freedom to do whatever, the problem is claiming the Internet to be owned by someone (rights wise) it's not, the best thing about it is freedom of expression (obviously this isn't always good) but most of the time it's its greatest strength

Robbo · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:19

A shame, I like Newzbin.

Still, it wont stop anything

Metallifux · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:19

DAvE18 said:
Total farce they don't even understand how it doesn't even have a single piece of copyrighted material on it. Not one bit.

Congratulations Britain you have now joined the same ranks as china blocking websites for a companies gain. Anyone who cant see this as an attack on the very freedom of the internet and a very big slippery slope needs there eyes opened.

What he said.

Robosapien · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:20

Artists need money too, bro.

[TW]Fox · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:20

Is this what happens when a judge presides over issues beyond his technical understanding?

matt_fsr · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:20

I think stockhousen missed your point Tummy.

An ISP makes money from piracy, because in order to download ~250Gb per month, you'd need a fast connection with a high bandwidth rating = expensive.

If all piracy died tomorrow, many people could ditch their 50Mb/s connections and return to 2Mb/s.

Danthus · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:20

[TW]Fox;19686182 said:
Is this what happens when a judge presides over issues beyond his technical understanding?

Pretty much.

Danthus · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:21

matt_fsr said:
I think stockhousen missed your point Tummy.

An ISP makes money from piracy, because in order to download ~250Gb per month, you'd need a fast connection with a high bandwidth rating = expensive.

If all piracy died tomorrow, many people could ditch their 50Mb/s connections and return to 2Mb/s.

BBC iPlayer blows that out of the water.

Combat squirrel · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:21

DAvE18 said:
Like I said just you watch within the next 12 months some more sites they will want added will be waiting for mr justice Arnold. Im sure someone is giving him a nice backhander. This country's internet freedom just went bye bye.

2011 RIP Free internet in Britain

Agreed

Mr Jack · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:22

DAvE18 said:
This country's internet freedom just went bye bye.

Performing illegal acts is not a "freedom".

It strikes me that this is likely to be relatively ineffective, and the process is not really fit for purpose. Still, we're only beginning to explore the process of how effective policing of the Internet can achieved, hopefully more effective measures will come in time.

David91 · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:22

fez said:
How do some people continue to post such rubbish opinions in the face of almost universal ridicule. Do they genuinely believe that they are right and 99% of other people are wrong.

Christ stockhausen, just engage your brain before giving a brief and idiotic view.

This is what my comment was effectively saying, however it was "uncalled for" and was deleted

Metallifux · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:22

stockhausen said:
Let's put it this way - as a result of this ruling, some people will move from BT to other ISPs (probably NOT Sky ). BT will lose that revenue / money and someone else will gain it . . . by virtue of facilitating piracy - QED.

If your local pub allowed drug dealers to operate form the premises, it might be seen as a USP, encouraging people to drop in for a pint when they needed to score, thereby profiting from drug dealing, no?

Since most ISP's use BT's backbone at some point aren't most going to be affected depending on where BT end up putting the block?

DJMK4 · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:22

matt_fsr said:
An ISP makes money from piracy, because in order to download ~250Gb per month, you'd need a fast connection with a high bandwidth rating = expensive.

Really?

My £12 a month (used to be £17 a month) BE connection giving me an unlimited download throughput of 18mb/sec is hardly expensive.

Morba · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:22

matt_fsr said:
I think stockhousen missed your point Tummy.

An ISP makes money from piracy, because in order to download ~250Gb per month, you'd need a fast connection with a high bandwidth rating = expensive.

If all piracy died tomorrow, many people could ditch their 50Mb/s connections and return to 2Mb/s.

How many people have super fast broadband purely for downloading illegal content, as a percentage of total users?
I would bet it is quite low tbh...

Danthus · 28 Jul 2011 at 12:23

It has nothing to do with internet freedom.

BT ordered to block pirate links

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