btec national diploma it practioners

I have to admit, the course isn't that hard compared to a degree.

As long as you do the work, I don't see why not you should get a decent grade overall.
 
triggerthat said:
I have to admit, the course isn't that hard compared to a degree.

Compared to a degree, the BTEC is nothing.

I've found that Uni's are reluctant to accept people who have done the BTEC and if you are wanting to got a good uni, stick with normal A-levels.

The course is varied and gives you a wide amount of knowledge, but it's not a great step into the IT industry either.

Also, the course varies a lot depending on what units the college has chosen.

Burnsy
 
I'm on this course and its the biggest mistake of my LIFE! (so far :p)

It is a truly shocking horrifically boring course, you basically do boring **** secretary work then do a program, only IT DOENST MATTER HOW GOOD THE PROGRAM IS, IT'S HOW WELL YOU CAN SCREENSHOT IT!!

Its the biggest waste of time i've ever experienced, and i'll tell you now its worth sweet fa to a uni.

3 D's at a level is worth more than a pass in this joke of a course. Don't do iteven if your life depends on it.
 
Chris1712 said:
I'm on this course and its the biggest mistake of my LIFE! (so far :p)

It is a truly shocking horrifically boring course, you basically do boring **** secretary work then do a program, only IT DOENST MATTER HOW GOOD THE PROGRAM IS, IT'S HOW WELL YOU CAN SCREENSHOT IT!!

Its the biggest waste of time i've ever experienced, and i'll tell you now its worth sweet fa to a uni.

3 D's at a level is worth more than a pass in this joke of a course. Don't do iteven if your life depends on it.

well said...

it is secretary work isnt it... typing up anything and everything in word.. thats sums up 99% of the course.

i wish i could go back in time to do a level maths/physics and english language. if you get good alevels in them, your pretty much sorted in any course at uni
 
zenith10 said:
could someone email me some of there work so i could see what this course is like?


I'll send you an example assignment no problem. I'm trying to save as many people from this course at my college aswell so why not here :p


Sent a programming assignment, consider that these are really the only worthwhile units, thats 3 out of around 25+ or something.

Its mostly "do a spreadsheet for a small plant company in shropshire" or "use mailmerge to make a bunch of letters to an address book" oh and my favourite "use your family history to make a family tree :confused: "

Supposedly was to help us with DFD's and stuff.

Don't expect ANY hardware influence and be prepared to blab on and on about useless information along the lines of why arrays are better used than stacks. Yeah ok it may well be, but perhaps telling us how to program them first would be worth doing :mad:
 
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A-Levels is an academic route, which in most cases leads to higher education.

Whereas a BTEC National Diploma in a vocational route, which is more focused in the workplace and involves more hands on work. However, it can lead to university.

If you don't want a higher education qualifcation, then the ND route will benefit. But don't expect to get an amazing job with the national diploma. I only did it because I wasn't interested in anything else at A-Level, plus I wanted to go University.
 
As Burnsy said the course content can vary depending on your college. There appears to be a pool of 'units' which your college chooses from. There's also different types of BTEC National Diploma IT Practitioners - Software development, Systems support...etc

I'll give you a brief overview of the units I did during my first year in BTEC: Software Development.

Year 1:


Language and Communications: This unit really didn't appear to have much relevance at all to the subject of computing. Basically, we learnt about different types of language and documents used in business.

Computer Systems: In this unit we learnt how the various hardware components inside a computer operate. We also learnt mathematics using various numbering systems such as binary, octal...etc - Converting decimal to binary/decimal to octal/binary to octal...etc...etc, adding/multiplying/subtracting binary numbers...etc...etc
We also did a little practical work assembling/disassembling hardware and some programming using Assembly (A low level programming language)

Business Information Systems: In this unit we learnt how businesses and organisations operate, the different types of business, the structure of businesses and the functional areas of businesses.

Introduction to Software Development: This unit gave us an introduction to the programming world. The language which you use will vary depending on your college. We used Pascal, which is strange because it's rarely used in the industry these days, and is considered obsolete. According to my college, it's simple and logical in comparison to C/C++, therefore making it easier to understand at an introductory level.
At the level we were programming, C/C++ which are industry standard programming languages, barely differ to Pascal. It's more likely our college didn't have a member of staff availiable that had a knowledge of C/C++.

Anyway rant over, yeah, basically this unit was an introduction to programming. It's all pretty basic stuff, writing simple console applications, learning about variables, loops, functions/procedures, basic programming terminology...etc

System Analysis and Design: In this unit we learnt about the various stages of system development, the different levels of a system, the system life cycle, how to produce various documentation - Cost benefit analysis, feasibility study, data flow diagrams...etc

Human-Computer Interface: In this unit we learnt about the various components of a computer interface, both at a hardware and software level. We learnt how to design and implement an interface to meet the needs of a specific user or user group.

Software Applications: This unit was horrifically boring. Pretty basic stuff also. We learnt how to make use of word processing, spreadsheet and database software. (Microsoft Word, Excel and Access).

Operating Systems: In this unit we learnt about the history of operating systems, the different types of operating systems, the features of operating systems, how operating systems interface with the hardware components...etc

Website Development: In this unit we learnt how to produce websites from scratch using HTML, CSS and Javascript (written in Notepad) as well as how to use Macromedia Dreamweaver.

Any questions, feel free to ask. I'll do a similar write up of the units I'm currently doing in my second year later on/tomorrow.
 
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im on the national dip for it
ive found it very programming heavy and have had very little to do with the insides of pc's and since this is what i want to do with my future kinda disappointed
if ya into code and theory good course. i was also told there was some networking which there isnt :(
 
I originally wanted to take the AVCE course which was half hardware half software which they of course stopped the year I went to college.
It looked much better than the BTEC, also one of my teachers is completely mental. I reckon if I tried I could get her sectioned :p
 
Chris1712 said:
I'm on this course and its the biggest mistake of my LIFE! (so far :p)

It is a truly shocking horrifically boring course, you basically do boring **** secretary work then do a program, only IT DOENST MATTER HOW GOOD THE PROGRAM IS, IT'S HOW WELL YOU CAN SCREENSHOT IT!!

Its the biggest waste of time i've ever experienced, and i'll tell you now its worth sweet fa to a uni.

3 D's at a level is worth more than a pass in this joke of a course. Don't do iteven if your life depends on it.

Im in the same class as Chris, and yes, its complete BS.

The lecturers in our college are so boring and have no motivation skills, luckily we only have a few long months left!

Will struggle to get a job > £10k per year with it, so have wasted 2 years of my life.
 
andy2k said:
Will struggle to get a job > £10k per year with it, so have wasted 2 years of my life.

I feel your pain :( (especially when you know more than your tutors - usually)

Its a funny world, having to waste time on a qualifacation to proove you are capable in a job - excluding a university degree obviously.
 
This course must be the same crap everywere, the tutors are so bad, and the guy above is right, you usually know more than the tutors. I must be a fool because after i did it, i started the HND for software engineers, and its pretty much just as bad. When do you get to do the real work?! so far only the java has interested me.
 
cyborg said:
This course must be the same crap everywere, the tutors are so bad, and the guy above is right, you usually know more than the tutors. I must be a fool because after i did it, i started the HND for software engineers, and its pretty much just as bad. When do you get to do the real work?! so far only the java has interested me.

We have been offered it at my college, i declined!

Have wasted enough time with it all TBH, only do 11 hours per week now on it.
 
i did this course, and moved on to to a HND in internet technology, about to finish that and top it upto a degree next year. Would have rather stayed with my friends in 6th form given the choice again, as you dont really gain much from this course over people doing A levels should you carry on to do another course after this. I suppose its not bad if you want to go into employment after, though.
 
rather than going on to do a degree after this ive chosen to do two other things, an MCSA and something else networking related like A+ (i think thats the one) maybe a cisco qualification too
 
NatDips in IT or anything like that are pointless.
There are people on my course who the NatDip before the HND, and the NatDip appears to teach them nothing. And it cant be said that its because the college is bad because its classed as the best in the country.
Ive found that NatDips, if you take it in the area that has a follow on HND or Degree can be a good idea. As most good jobs require a HND or Degree in a specific area.
Although you might get lucky and find a IT company willing to employ you at NatDip level and train you.
 
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