Build problems, mainly with graphics card

closeratio

closeratio

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Ok so I've just built a new rig. I'll post the specs of the rig in a mo. But all that's really wrong is that everytime I try to install the drivers for the 8800gt, it keeps saying somehting like there are no devices connected that support the drivers. But i know it iis, because I'm running my display through it lol. Another thing I've found, is that whenever I try to scroll, the screen like 'repaints' itself, almost like a slow and incredibly annoying slideshow :)

And just another thing, before I installed windows, I had a look at what the BIOS had to offer on my mobo, and even though I've got just a bog standard intel CPU, I was able to change the processor multiplier anywhere from 6 to 10? how's that then? i thought they were locked? Do you reckon I need to update my BIOS? (it's F4 at the moment I believe)

Thing is as well, when I run CPU-z as well, it initially says I'm running it at around 3Ghz (for maybe half a second), but then it suddenly drops down to syain i'm running it at just under 2. Does this usually happen?

CPU: E2180 @ circa 3Ghz
Mobo: Gigabyte P35C-DS3r
Memory: 2Gb (2x1gb) Corsair domintar RAM at 800Mhz
GFX: XFX 8800gt 'Alpha Dog Edition'
Hard Drive: WD 500gb HD

Sorry if i've not included enough info, just ask me if you need any more. And thanks for lookin guys :D
 
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What OS are you running? The reason the screen repaints is probably because the card has no drivers, or just rubbish windows default ones, thet'll stop once the drivers are sorted. Download some drivers off the internet and try them, or find the graphics card in device manager and do a driver update from there if you're not already.

The CPU could be running slow because some kind of power saving tech is enabled, probably in bios, i dont know that board, but its worth checking, it might slow itself down when not under load. What settings are you running for your overclock?
 
The multiplier allows you to up the FSB tohelp increase performance, ie 225 x 9 instead of 200 x 10.

Processor speed adjustment whilst in windows is speedstep, the multiplier plier is reduced to save power whilst the cpu is idle, then raises when stressed.

In terms of installing the graphics card not sure, do you have all the power cables plugged in, or try downloading the drivers from the Nvidia web site.

Rob
 
OK I'm running Windows XP SP2. And I'm startin to have more success with installin the video drivers once I did a reboot. So that could be ok now.

As for the CPU, as far as I understood, the multipliers on Intel chips were totally locked unles syou spent like twice as much and got an extreme edition lol. I think it's ok though. And thanks RJC, I never knew speedstep worked like that. I'd heard of it, but I just thought it was another thing intel put on their products to make them sound better lol.

You know typical of my luck, things seem to be gettin better just after I've posted this thread. THanks for all your help anyway guys. If I do encounter anymore porblems, I'll post them on here

EDIT: Ok panic over. It was solved after a series of restarts and scowlin at windows. Sorry for takin up your time guys, but thanks for teachin me somethin new lol viva 8800gt!!
 
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Glad to hear things are getting there :).

I think on the multipliers the more exspensive CPU's can be raised, but the multiplier but on the std ones you lower only, this is also dependenant on motherboard and perhaps BIOS revision.

My old DFI infinity 975X/G could only do this on the later BIOS revisons.

Rob :)
 
Ok I did have another thread with this in but I'm not sure which one it applies to more. Anyway, I keep tryin to get my E2180 to 3Ghz, but every time I change the voltages from auto to manual, and set the vCore at 1.3V, and save the changes, it restarts, then stops, then restarts again and stops quicker, and then the third time it restarts, it goes fine, but I realise it's set all the setting back to default, so I'm running on stock CPU speeds etc.

Anyone know how to make it boot fine so it doesn't change the voltages back and I can still have then set to manual. It's just the thing is if I do set the voltage control to auto, it gives it just below 1.3v, and I either get the blue screen of death when running 3d mark or it just randomly freezes up (like totally freezes up) about half an hour into using it.

I'm using the F4 BIOS atm, would it be wise to update to the F5? (and if it would be, how would I do it? lol) Or is it just possible to tweak something so it doesn't go back to defaults? thanks guys
 
closeratio said:
Ok I did have another thread with this in but I'm not sure which one it applies to more. Anyway, I keep tryin to get my E2180 to 3Ghz, but every time I change the voltages from auto to manual, and set the vCore at 1.3V, and save the changes, it restarts, then stops, then restarts again and stops quicker, and then the third time it restarts, it goes fine, but I realise it's set all the setting back to default, so I'm running on stock CPU speeds etc.

Anyone know how to make it boot fine so it doesn't change the voltages back and I can still have then set to manual. It's just the thing is if I do set the voltage control to auto, it gives it just below 1.3v, and I either get the blue screen of death when running 3d mark or it just randomly freezes up (like totally freezes up) about half an hour into using it.

I'm using the F4 BIOS atm, would it be wise to update to the F5? (and if it would be, how would I do it? lol) Or is it just possible to tweak something so it doesn't go back to defaults? thanks guys
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have a look what the new bios includes, like what it has over the F4 bios, I was thinking of upgrading mine too (I have the same mb as you), but it didnt really have any major improvements.

what speed can you get it to stable?
 
Yeah I didn't see it as being that important either. I suppose that was added to by the fact I don't quite understand how to lol. that @BIOS program doesn't seem to work too well.

Anyway, I can get it to 2.5Ghz stable (just changing the FSB speed, as I said, I can't get it to boot if I don't leave the voltage control at auto). I was expecting to get it to 3Ghz easily tbh, but it seems to be too unstable. If I was able to get it to boot in manual voltages, should I be changing any other voltages as well as the vCore? Maybe the RAM voltages or somethin?
 
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Yeah I didn't see it as being that important either. I suppose that was added to by the fact I don't quite understand how to lol. that @Bios program doesn't seem to work too well.

Anyway, I can get it to 2.5Ghz stable (just changing the FSB speed, as I said, I can't get it to boot if I don't leave the voltage control at auto). I was expecting to get it to 3Ghz easily tbh, but it seems to be too unstable. If I was able to get it to boot in manual voltages, should I be changing any other voltages as well as the vCore? Maybe the RAM voltages or somethin?
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if the rams at stock then you shouldn't need to change ram voltages, although you could try losening the timings perhaps, can't see it helping much though.

what temps is it running at? it should get to atleast 2.8ghz really.

if you're still intrested in flashing the bios, then i can explain how, it's very simple.
 
I'm gonna check what voltages my RAM's at when I get home. It's that dominator stuff so if it's running at 1.8 it might not be being supplied enough, which actually might be causing the problem. I would loosen the timimngs, but they're at 5-5-5-18 already lol, so like you say I wouldn't really want to.

My temps at 2.5Ghz are ~30C Idle and about 46C Load (with Orthos, and an ac Freezer 7 pro), so they're not too bad either.

And if you wouldn't mind Yanto, I'd be interested to know how. It might just solve the problem as well.

Still need to find what revision my board is
 
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I'm gonna check what voltages my RAM's at when I get home. It's that dominator stuff so if it's running at 1.8 it might not be being supplied enough, which actually might be causing the problem. I would loosen the timimngs, but they're at 5-5-5-18 already lol, so like you say I wouldn't really want to.

My temps at 2.5Ghz are ~30C Idle and about 46C Load (with Orthos, and an ac Freezer 7 pro), so they're not too bad either.

And if you wouldn't mind Yanto, I'd be interested to know how. It might just solve the problem as well.

Still need to find what revision my board is
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you're board revision is writtin in the bottom left corner, by one of the screws that join it to ** case.

and to flash the bios, you simply download the new bios, copy the F5 file onto a usb stick, go into ** bios, and I think it's F8 you press to get the Q-flash utility up, and from there it's fairly self explanitry.

and put everything at stock before you do it, becasue if it crashes during the update you won't be able to do anything with ** mb.

reset ** CMOS once you've finished aswell, do you know how to do this?
 
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reset ** CMOS once you've finished aswell, do you know how to do this?
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Erm I'm not sure. I'm not too good with the whole BIOS interface. Not been over clocking long.

And thanks for the info on updatin the BIOS. I just gotta find my USB stick now lol.

Like ** new siggy btw :)
 
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Erm I'm not sure. I'm not too good with the whole BIOS interface. Not been over clocking long.

And thanks for the info on updatin the BIOS. I just gotta find my USB stick now lol.

Like ** new siggy btw :)
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lol thanks :), i didn't make it though, Red and White who's a member on these forums made it for me.

to reset the CMOS you just have to remove you're gpu (probably anyway, depending on the size of it, I did with my GTX) and the make sure the power is off at the mains, then short the two cmos pins for about 5 seconds, there labelled on the board, threre near the big battery.
 
Right OK. I might try that before I update the BIOS then, might be a chance it fixes the problem of me not bein able to boot with manual voltages. And I'll check my RAM voltages before I try to update the BIOS.

Thanks for your help anyway mate. Btw you ever had this trouble with it not bootin on manually set voltages? And what CPU you usin?
 
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Right OK. I might try that before I update the BIOS then, might be a chance it fixes the problem of me not bein able to boot with manual voltages. And I'll check my RAM voltages before I try to update the BIOS.

Thanks for your help anyway mate. Btw you ever had this trouble with it not bootin on manually set voltages? And what CPU you usin?
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I've not had a problem with it not getting past the bios screen, but I've had it blue screen a lot on windows installation, but then my system still isn't working and is totally unpredictable.

And I'm using a Q6600 G0.

and if your board has the F4 bios already, then it will probly be a revision 2.
 
Right thanks for that info. I'm glad it's a revision 2. I don't thin I'd go as far as to get a new cpu, but it helps knowin what other poeple are usin. I might short the two CMOS pins before I try anythin else. Because I can't actually change the voltages manually for any of my bits without it changin them back later.

I'll see what I can do anyway. I should be happy at 2.5Ghz lol, but I know it'll be that bit quicker with 3.

Thanks again for the help
 
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are you pressing F10 before you leave the bios? as this saves any settings you may have changed.
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Yeah I am. I've even tried saving it as a custom profile thing but that didn't work either. See what it does is as soon as I set it to manual (and done the f10 thing), it powers down, and then I'm assuming it somehow changes the vCore to what I set it at, and as it powers up again, starts to post (showing that I've got my CPU set at 3Ghz), but then as soon as it's meant to go into the windows screen, it then powers down again. It then does this again but doesn't take as long. And then the next time it's powered up, it shows the stock speed, and goes into windows (and if I look in th BIOS it's disabled the feature that lets me change the voltages and FSB speeds).

You're lucky you don't have this problem lol. I've looked on google and found quite a few other people who are having this problem, and I don't think it's isolated to the P35C DS3R.

What I might do whilst I'm clearing the CMOS is take the battery out as well (might as well put it across a voltmeter just to check it), as that's what a lot of other people have suggested. I've also seen some people using the option 2 thing on the DRAM setting in the BIOS, but I don't think this'll make too much difference either.

And I thought all motherboards these days were pretty much the same lol. I'll update this thread once I've attempted to reset the CMOS and all.
 
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it seems like it tries to startup, realises it can't, so then changes it back to the stock speed. have you tried just slowly upping the fsb? rather than jumping straigh from stock to 3ghz, becasue then you could stability test it after each fsb rise, so you know when it gets unstable.

to allow the bios to let you change fsb, volts etc, you have to press ctrl + F1 on the main bios screen menu.
 
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