Building new rig and Raid 0

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I am thinking about building a new rig, but I am concerned because I have two drives which are Raid 0 (Striping).

I assume its not as a simple as unplugging the drives from the old motherboard and plugging them into the new motherboard and setting it up for striping?

Can anyone offer any insight to this?
 
Well your reply got me thinking! And yes I do want to make a new rig since I want to do a triple monitor setup with the release of BF4.

So any rig recommendations :)?

Budget not a big issue Say 1 to 1.5k.

EDIT: I have some bits already such as 750W power supply and hard drives.

I take it my P5B Deluxe and Q6600 along with the RAM will go onto MM?
 
zola25 said:
I no longer use raid myself, but if you are moving the array from one similar controller to another (e.g. Intel to Intel), there may be no need to break the array. My old RAID 0 array moved seamlessly between a board with ICHR8 and an ICHR10 board, this was a few years ago mind. I just plugged it in and set the correct ports to RAID mode, and the motherboard worked out the rest.

Edit: whatever approach you take, be sure to backup your data first just in case :)
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Good advice will do this I think.

But to be honest, I dont think its too much trouble to break up the RAID (its a games drive).

So worst case scenario will problably format them.
Do I need to "unRAID" before formating or can I just unplug from old rig, plug in new rig and format/RAID 0?
 
Doomedspeed said:
I have a few things in mind (ill spec you at lunch time)...

Is the triple monitor setup a must or would you be happier with a 144hz/120hz screen or a single 1440p display? I prefer this route as its less hassle but better results than 1080p, it is also easier to run.. :)

Yeah you old bit will go well on the MM, they are still quite popular.
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Great, many thanks buddy, look forward to your proposal.

Triple monitor would be great but I am just wondering about this whole 120/144Hz debate at the moment. Is this really that much better?

Is 120hz/140hz @ 1440 display not possible? Or is it too expensive?

FYI I have limited desk space (looking at around 55cm length for each monitor.
Ideally 23/24" for triple monitor.
Otherwise whatever size for single monitor.
 
Ok firstly, many many thanks Doomed this is a nice start and tbh very much on the higher side as you said.

1. I have a 750W PSU already (I think its an Antec also), so we can drop that from the list.

2. I have NEVER done any water/liquid cooling in my life. My current rig has Noctua ultra quiet fans (I have always prefereed quietness over overclocking). Not sure how liquid cooling fairs these days?
Are they relatively easy to install? (are they an enclosed system? i.e. dont need to faf around with liquid etc?).

3. I have lost track of the CPU roadmaps, any link to somewhere which explains the latest? Is the 4770K the best of the i7s?
Also why is it called "4770K?" exactly? Or is it just a label?

4. Love the case. Is that a recommendation by you? Any better ones?

5. We can drop the Hard Drive (as I mentioned I have plenty of HD space).

6. Monitor. Dont want 3D monitor tbh (I assume it involves wear some kind of glasses?).
 
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ubersonic said:
The H100 is a sealed unit, no maintenance required, just mount the CPU bit to the CPU, the rad/fans to the case, plug it in and away.

As for roadmaps, its a bit like:

4770K > 3770K > 2700K >> 9xx/8xx >> Q9xxx > Q6xxx

The 4 at the start shows its a 4th generation i7, the 770 is the model number, the K means the multiplier is unlocked for easy overclocking, and the i7 (in this case) means it have four cores with hyperthreading.
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Eye opener. Many many thanks.
Are the H70/80 not sealed units? Whats the difference between them and the 100?
EDIT: No thermal compound required these H80/100s? I can see there is some preapplied?
 
Whats better a thick or thin radiator in your opinion?
To be honest I dont want to overclock too much, Im looking for quietness than out and out performance.
What kind of overclocks can I expect at a basic level?
 
teknokid said:
Going back to the original question quickly - if you're moving from one system to another, you won't be able to keep your program files/windows install anyway as it'll be a nightmare with driver issues...
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No I will reinstall ofcourse, but thanks for the headsup!
 
Doomedspeed said:
The difference between the H80 and H100 is size..

The H60/H70 Comes with a thin 120mm rad and 1 fan

The H80 comes with a Thick 120mm rad and 2 fans

The H100 comes with a thin 240mm rad and 2 fans.

They all come with paste.

Monitor wise: 3D isn't for everyone though you don't have to use it. :)

I was looking at this iiyama one but its Out of stock, if you wanted 1440p you'd be looking at this dell:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Dell UltraSharp U2713HM 27" Widescreen LED Monitor - Midnight Grey £439.99
1 x Iiyama Prolite G2773HS 144Hz 27" Widescreen LED 1MS Monitor - Black £275.99
Total : £730.98 (includes shipping : £12.50).



(i much prefer the iiyama (quality and price)

Also with the CPU's 'K' means the chip has an unlocked multiplier which makes overclocking possible and really easy. :)

Yeah the 750D is one of my favourite ever cases. :)
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Must be missing something here.

Are all 27" +120Hz monitors only 1920x 1080? Doesnt that mean the screens will be quite, blocky?

And just coming back to the H100, I mean, how loud are the fans on this thing? Bear in mind I currently have Noctua fans in my rig at lowest RPM setting.
 
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Doomedspeed said:
Thats why the 120/144hz is important as the refresh-rate is double that of stanard monitors.. This negates the blocki-ness of 1080p in my opinion.

The H100 fans will be louder than your noctua's..If you can replace the H100's with your notuca's that'd be ideal.. :)
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Hmm ok.

I can see the H100i comes with SPL120s?
Cant you run those at a much lower RPM?

And (sorry just one more question :p) how far can I overclock the 4770k (safely)?
 
So Im close to wanting to place an order but I have a few more questions about:

1. Mobo. Is the MSI mobo the way to go? I would like to at least crossfire two 280s, possibly 3 in the future so want to ensure full bandwidth is available.

2. Sound. Am I better off using the onboard mobo audio?

3. RAM - Ive never heard of the Patriot Venom. Is there any other known brand such as Corsair or OCZ? Or is this Patriot Venom the dogs danglers today?

4. Monitor - Whatabout a 3 monitor 120/144Hz setup? Any recommendation?

5. If I didnt want to go the watercooled route, whats the quietest/best heatsink/fan combo at the moment?
 
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Thanks Doomedspeed.
One question concerning point 4... I must have missed something here...


Are you saying that higher refresh rate is driven by the graphics card as well as the monitor? I.e. its a GPU driven factor? So having 3 X 120Hz monitor will grind the CPU/GPU to a halt? (I always though refresh rates are settings on the monitor rather than the GPU hardware).
 
So the question is, why do I need that extra grunt if I don't do a 3 monitor setup? Surely I can get away with just upgrade my current PC with 2 X 280s which should do the trick?
(At 1920 x 1080 I take it?)
 
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