Burglaries

PlatinumFX said:
They do?! Who?!
Upon the day of moving out after a year of bliss, I took a swing at my bare matress just to see how much it might hurt. Bloody thing broke, first strike ROFL.

:D
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The people breaking in obviously think its acceptable tbh.

The bat breaking, you knock them down with it, then it breaks, then you stab them. :p

Keyboards ho!

Also, swordattack klang klang. :D
 
cheets64 said:
I might aswell blame cats for breaking into my house all the years ago and driving the cars behind us, scum like i said.
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How is it that there are four threads that have combined into one. Everyone is cross-posting in them. :p
 
The Pat said:
How is it that there are four threads that have combined into one. Everyone is cross-posting in them. :p
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That be the nature of the OcUK night watch, miss a post in a random thread and you miss out all together. :p

However, this thread was intended to be serious. :)
 
WotDa said:
That be the nature of the OcUK night watch, miss a post in a random thread and you miss out all together. :p

However, this thread was intended to be serious. :)
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Not recently, mainly seems to be spoof threads lately.
 
The trick is to flash a camera flash in their face and then hit them straight in the throat with one of those hefty jacket sized thick plastic coathangers! You see, it's not considered an offensive weapon and it's just an everday item that'll be lying about your house. :)

Or simply take a large metal torch with you and bash the living daylight out of their thieving skulls!
 
Azagoth said:
Or simply take a large metal torch with you and bash the living daylight out of their thieving skulls!
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I normally have my Maglight torch for that, but I can't seem to find that when I actually might need it.

I already had the camera flash technique sorted, as you may have seen from the other thread. :)
 
WotDa said:
Also, clobbering people who unlawfully entered a property, still illegal?

So OcUK, keep me awake so I stop my things being taken from under me. :p
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It is, and always has been, legal to use reasonable force in defence and in prevention of crime.

What isn't legal is (a) excessive force and (b) pre-meditated violence, which includes keeping weapons intended for use as weapons.

Personally, I disagree with the latter. I think it's reasonable to keep weapons at home in case someone breaks in. That doesn't make it legal, though.

I keep lengths of steel pipe easily available in several rooms of my home. I have a perfectly good reason for doing so which does not make them premeditated for use as weapons. You have the same good reason, as does nearly everyone. There are educational campaigns to encourage people to have planned escape routes in case of a fire in their home. In most (if not all) homes, it is possible that a fire may break out in such a way that it prevents you from exiting through a door. For that reason, you should have something handy near every window that you could use to smash the window quickly to escape a fire that way. Hence my steel clubs. I want a way through a window in seconds if, for example, I'm woken up by my fire alarms and my stairs are on fire. Smash the window with the club, drop a blanket/duvet/anything over the base of the frame to protect me from shards of glass and I'm out.

If I find someone has broken into my house and I grab one of these tools and break one of their legs, I think I can claim reasonable force. Who knows what they would have done to me otherwise?
 
Angilion said:
If I find someone has broken into my house and I grab one of these tools and break one of their legs, I think I can claim reasonable force. Who knows what they would have done to me otherwise?
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Wow. Sounds like a plan.
 
mp3kla said:
Volume Crime Scene Examiner, its a sort of starting point for most CSI's.

They investigate crimes that occur on a large scale, car crime, robberies etc.

Will probably be what I start out doing after my Forensics degree before I train to become a CSI with a police force.
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This is the UK: we don't have CSIs here, we call them SOCOs. Or the ones that aren't employed by the police are called forensic scientists. Although I've heard rumours that some SOCOs want to called CSIs (even though what they do is only a small fraction of what is done on the TV shows).

And I do wish you hadn't chosen a degree in Forensic Science, as you'd be far better off for that profession doing chemistry or biology. But I guess it's too late now...


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Azagoth said:
The trick is to flash a camera flash in their face and then hit them straight in the throat with one of those hefty jacket sized thick plastic coathangers! You see, it's not considered an offensive weapon and it's just an everday item that'll be lying about your house. :)

Or simply take a large metal torch with you and bash the living daylight out of their thieving skulls!
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Never actually though about the coat hanger option Azagoth - this is why i keep a crossbow, if anyone does break in of course am going to use it. As someone else posted in this thread "I'll deal with the consequences later" :D
 
mp3kla said:
Invest in a stainless steel chin up bar. Makes a handy weapon and it can also look as if it was a spur of the moment thing. Much more conspicuous than a baseball bat.
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I always have a weights bar with no weights on it just for a safety measure :rolleyes:

Never know if i would use it though, would be one of those situation based things.
 
Kill them and dispose of the body :p if you do it right how are they going to link it back to you ;) not like anybody should know he was there
 
Meridian said:
This is the UK: we don't have CSIs here, we call them SOCOs. Or the ones that aren't employed by the police are called forensic scientists. Although I've heard rumours that some SOCOs want to called CSIs (even though what they do is only a small fraction of what is done on the TV shows).

And I do wish you hadn't chosen a degree in Forensic Science, as you'd be far better off for that profession doing chemistry or biology. But I guess it's too late now...


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Other police forces call it CSI/CSE too (not just Kent):

http://www.kent.police.uk/Training ...me Scene Management/Crime Scene Investig.html


You'll find its been changed already. SOCO's is only spoken at times, Crime Scene Examiners and Crime Scene Investigators are now being used. :rolleyes:

I called it SOCO up until I started uni but the guy teaching us (ex-SOCO) now says it needs to be called CSE / CSI / VCSE etc...

Also the course is fine. We also get the chance to add specialist parts onto our course for extra credits (20 each) during summer hols in certain types of mass disaster management and scenarios.

http://courses.bournemouth.ac.uk/3details.asp?programmeCode=BSFS

Possibly going to do a masters in Forensic anthropology or Forensic archaeology.
 
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Angilion said:
It is, and always has been, legal to use reasonable force in defence and in prevention of crime.

What isn't legal is (a) excessive force and (b) pre-meditated violence, which includes keeping weapons intended for use as weapons.

Personally, I disagree with the latter. I think it's reasonable to keep weapons at home in case someone breaks in. That doesn't make it legal, though.

I keep lengths of steel pipe easily available in several rooms of my home. I have a perfectly good reason for doing so which does not make them premeditated for use as weapons. You have the same good reason, as does nearly everyone. There are educational campaigns to encourage people to have planned escape routes in case of a fire in their home. In most (if not all) homes, it is possible that a fire may break out in such a way that it prevents you from exiting through a door. For that reason, you should have something handy near every window that you could use to smash the window quickly to escape a fire that way. Hence my steel clubs. I want a way through a window in seconds if, for example, I'm woken up by my fire alarms and my stairs are on fire. Smash the window with the club, drop a blanket/duvet/anything over the base of the frame to protect me from shards of glass and I'm out.

If I find someone has broken into my house and I grab one of these tools and break one of their legs, I think I can claim reasonable force. Who knows what they would have done to me otherwise?
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That's why UK Law is an ass.

In the US you can have pretty much whatever weapon you want for home defence - someone would think twice about breaking in if they knew you had an Israeli Desert Auto Eagle .50 ;)
 
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