Bus Rage

Mr Joshua · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:50

Visage said:
Its just that Im not some kind of uptight stress kitten that thinks the world should conform to some tiny behavioural niche that I define as 'normal'.

Visage said:
Wow - im amazed that you people can even function on a day to day basis with this much rage.

Then surely you can accept that some things wind some people up more than others?

Visage · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:59

Mr Joshua said:
Then surely you can accept that some things wind some people up more than others?

Yes. I can still think they're mental though.

The point you're trying to make would be more valid if I started a thread ranting against people who got stressed about buses though

Deadly Ferret · 29 Sep 2006 at 18:43

BrightonBelle said:
I too get the 149 from London Bridge to Liverpool Street... never had any of your experiences though *touches wood*.

That'll be due to a number of factors other than just luck. Presumably you're a woman, which means you don't have any nuts that can get squashed and so you probably, like most women tend to do, sit with your legs crossed or closed, which takes up little space and so you don't come into contact with your neighbours even though they're probably interloping in the space in front of your seat. Also, chances are the men are more respectful around you because of your gender, and so there's none of the purposeful pushing that goes on.

Another thing is that you're at the civilized end of the route, suits and shoppers. I'm at the 80% black, Turkish and Eastern European end. Many of those people are completely lacking in manners. Especially the men in their twenties.

Only had one problem that I can recall with an Anglo-Saxon. The rest of the time it has been one of the three groups mentioned above. Those Eastern Europeans are bad. I get it from them on the District Line too, mostly construction workers early in the morning.

Robert said:
Sorry Ferret, but I think you're the problem here. Don't be so stuck up. I'm sorry that I'm a big guy (6"1 and generally just big guy)...I can't bloody well help it if someone like yourself thinks their too good to be touched by someone else. I can't even get my damn legs behind the seat properly, so that's awkward as it is. Then my arms, jesus relax. You aren't going to catch something. I do try and keep myself close, but as I said - I can't really help it.

Stuck up?! I couldn't give a fig who sits next to me; I just don't want them taking up my space. Your size be damned; any man of above average height wants to be able to space his legs out, and on the bus no bugger should take up another man's space as defined by the seating arrangement! Even if you're 6'6" you can still make yourself fit within the allotted space, so bally well do so! You suffer for your size, as there's no reason why I should have to in your stead! :mad:

If you don't like it, complain to the bus company instead of trying to force my leg further into my own space so you can appropriate some unjustifiably!

PeterNem · 29 Sep 2006 at 18:50

Deadly Ferret said:
I have to use the 149 London bus for work.

I feel for you, I had to put up with 6 months of getting the 149 from Stoke Newington to the corner of Leadenhall and Gracechurch. It was a complete nightmare and the worse part about moving to a different client site - before that I got the 76 to St. Pauls, which seems to attract much less of the dregs of society... maybe that was just my perception of it?

I'm working in London again soon, but this time living in St. Albans and getting the train to either Mooregate or City Thameslink.... I just hope that the train prices at peak times are enough to put off mothers with screaming kids which is a personal pet hate of mine. Hundreds of people in suits all pushing to get on I can manage with, but mothers with young kids who think they deserve to be on there ahead of everyone else do my head in.

Robert · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:16

Meh,

Deadly Ferret said:
That'll be due to a number of factors other than just luck. Presumably you're a woman, which means you don't have any nuts that can get squashed and so you probably, like most women tend to do, sit with your legs crossed or closed, which takes up little space and so you don't come into contact with your neighbours even though they're probably interloping in the space in front of your seat. Also, chances are the men are more respectful around you because of your gender, and so there's none of the purposeful pushing that goes on.

Another thing is that you're at the civilized end of the route, suits and shoppers. I'm at the 80% black, Turkish and Eastern European end. Many of those people are completely lacking in manners. Especially the men in their twenties.

Only had one problem that I can recall with an Anglo-Saxon. The rest of the time it has been one of the three groups mentioned above. Those Eastern Europeans are bad. I get it from them on the District Line too, mostly construction workers early in the morning.

Stuck up?! I couldn't give a fig who sits next to me; I just don't want them taking up my space. Your size be damned; any man of above average height wants to be able to space his legs out, and on the bus no bugger should take up another man's space as defined by the seating arrangement! Even if you're 6'6" you can still make yourself fit within the allotted space, so bally well do so! You suffer for your size, as there's no reason why I should have to in your stead!

If you don't like it, complain to the bus company instead of trying to force my leg further into my own space so you can appropriate some unjustifiably!

Get over yourself, I don't slobber myself over someone - but thighs touching...oh dear. Oh and elbows...it's laughable. I would slightly agree on the contension for space - but that it is rare (so I've found). I'll make sure to take my scalpel on the train, as I may need to amputate my legs and arms (should I be unfortunate enough to meet someone similar to you).

Oh and taking up your space? It's very rare that there are two people small enough, sat on a seat to NOT touch anyone (based on the avg person). I'm actually laughing out loud at you. To think you're actually an adult, in the open world is quite shocking.

Deadly Ferret said:
I saw one or two grins on the faces of other men nearby, and I think it was due to them having been long-suffering victims of this behaviour themselves.

Probably laughing at you.

crashuk · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:17

Well every time iam in the front on the queue, some non-english person tries to jump the queue to get onto the bus before me, my solution stick out my arm and grab the side of the door, lol they look at me with a screwed up face.

On the trains ive had enough, so now i just keep my rack sack on my back, stay at the entrance, if i get a seat i sit down and spread my legs. If i smell BO and the guys next to me i say " can you move you arm from my face as i can smell your BO" they normally go red and leave at the next station.

Freefaller · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:22

That's why I don't do buses! Loathsome things... smelly, dirty and full of yobs generally. Or at least I don't do them during rush hour. Then again this year I've taken a bus 4 times I think... I feel so dirty.

I feel for you DF - though maybe I wouldn't feel so extreme about it being a foreigner and all but I can entirely sympathise with your feelings.

Robert · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:29

Freefaller said:
That's why I don't do buses! Loathsome things... smelly, dirty and full of yobs generally. Or at least I don't do them during rush hour. Then again this year I've taken a bus 4 times I think... I feel so dirty.

I feel for you DF - though maybe I wouldn't feel so extreme about it being a foreigner and all but I can entirely sympathise with your feelings.

I do agree with them being smelly and dirty. You go on nicely dressed and come off feeling awful. I guess I'll put up with it until I get a car.

Deadly Ferret · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:30

Thanks. It would be just as annoying if it weren't foreigners...I only mentioned that because it is of some relevance, what with the trend.

Robert, it's only in the last five years or so that this problem has become noticeable (to me at least). If we managed fine without it before, why should we need or tolerate it now? Hope that's adult enough a question for you.

Robert · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:35

The fact is, unless you're extremely small - no way will you get two people on a seat without touching. As I've said - I'm fairly tall and have broad shoulders, but I keep to my side (and often end up half way off the seat) and yet we still touch, with the other people only taking their fair share. Even two old biddies can't escape touching shoulders. Maybe the've changed the design of some buses, but I do not think that it's people (mostly) who are causing this.

Freefaller · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:41

Thing is DF - I'm British, but I'm foreign too.... Would you mind me being close to you

Bar your homophobia of course

Mr.Orb · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:43

Freefaller said:
Thing is DF - I'm British, but I'm foreign too.... Would you mind me being close to you Bar your homophobia of course

I wouldn't mind you sitting next to me (if I knew it was you)... Its just would you want to sit next to me

crystaline · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:46

i have got buses all my life but you have to keep your wits about you, there are too many weirdos,

once, some nutcase came and sat behind me and started stroking my hair and talking about how beautiful it was,

another time I had some 45 y/o man sit next to me and tell me all the children at the back were making fun of him and could he be my friend. He got off the the bus and followed me half the way home, then i ran.

So often being female doesnt mean people are respectful, just means you are little less able to defend yourself.

Deadly Ferret · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:48

Freefaller said:
Thing is DF - I'm British, but I'm foreign too.... Would you mind me being close to you Bar your homophobia of course

Homophobic? I'm not scared of houses.

As I said to Robert, I don't care who sits next to me; only how they conduct themselves.

Freefaller · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:51

Mr.Orb said:
I wouldn't mind you sitting next to me (if I knew it was you)... Its just would you want to sit next to me

I'm a big boy though

Freefaller · 29 Sep 2006 at 19:52

Deadly Ferret said:
Homophobic? I'm not scared of houses.

As I said to Robert, I don't care who sits next to me; only how they conduct themselves.

Well I'm awfully decent and well behaved, and do tut at the youf of today I must say.

Kainz · 30 Sep 2006 at 18:57

To the OP, believe me I know how you feel. I use the 140 heading to Heathrow everyday, and given that it's a major route the amount of plonkers I see during the evenings on the way home defies belief.

Theres this one lady who insists on bringing her 5 kids onboard, and one of them must be able to walk because he can barely fit in his PRAM...yes PRAM. I've seen him walk once but she insists on sticking him in there anyway.

Next are the coolio schoolkids and their puny MP3 player phones which they insist on blasting out at full whack. Yes, like I want to hear 50 flamin cent for the 5th time in a day.

The worst are the smokers calmly smoking away at the rear, when theres a £100 No Smoking sticker at the front of the top deck. What's the point in having that rule when no ones around to enforce it?

Last year I got into trouble with the cozzers for throwing off 2 school kids who insisted on repeatedly pressing the 'Stop' button. I lost my rag as the bus driver stopped smack in the middle of the road. Yet they were still doing it, so I lobbed them off the bus just as a cozzer is walking past. Luckily the lower deck passengers stuck up for me.

and beercans rolling about the place....

WARGH Must not Rant further!!! :mad:

Justintime · 30 Sep 2006 at 19:09

Funny you should mention the 149 bus, i posted this elsewhere a few months ago about the same kind of bendy 29 bus.

Was on the bus yesterday when an 'incident' happened. Me and a mate were going to Finsbury park on the 29 bus, we got on and i immediately noticed a very gay African guy, we even had a whispering argument if it was a boy or a boyish girl, he did'nt wear a dress or anything, but you could just 'tell' by his tight shirt and wayy to short tight jean shorts. Ok, we moved on to looking at some hot girls.. 5mins later 2 dudes come on the bus, ones raw green jamaican with an accent no one could decipher and i think the other is british, both looked under or just about 20. Bus moves on, ok, so this jamaican guy goes WTF? *** is dis? and gets up in the African guys face and starts cussin him out, no one understood what he said. He had one of those 'Dimes' box juices in his hand, really big boxes. Some other dude the African guy was talking to asked the boy to calm down, even his own mate is asking him to stop, but what does he do? he smashes the box juice on the African guys head, really hard spilling juice all over him and others and then like the typical yardie coward he is, hit the emergency button and ran out the bus, his mate walked out with him. I'm not racist, but the fact that these undesirable people can come into the country and do their 'deeds' annoys me a lot, even moreso with the influx of Eastern Europeans and to some extent the Asians, though they don't cause much havoc. Everytime me and my mate take the bus we make a comment to each other, "seems english is a dying language around here!" and i comment to him "seems even your own white bruvs don't speak English" ..What that boy did makes me ashamed to be of Caribbean background. Seems more and more immigants are coming in and turning the place to hell, robberies, gangs.. you name it they do it. Kurdish mafia, Kosovan Mafia, Yardie mafia, you name we got it. I swear to god if you walk down Tottenham and ask someone directions or the time your answer'd be "no spekeee english".

Also, i know that 149 well, used it to go do my course in college, its known as the free bus in tottenham, as prolly 50% of the people don't have tickets or oysters..

Energize · 30 Sep 2006 at 19:11

neil3k said:
Another thing when people get on and they don't have their change ready.

YOU ONLY GET THE SAME BUS EVERY ******* DAY FOR ***** SAKE HAVE YOUR MONEY READY YOU'RE SLOWING ME DOWN.

Deep Healing Breath

*Much Better*

That is one of the most annoying things, people paying with cash instead of getting a bus pass when they get the bus every day.

Lopéz · 30 Sep 2006 at 19:53

Buses for the lose. Buy a moped. Cheap to buy and cheap to run.