Busted . .

It's nothing to do with "The Man" and all to do with basic safety and control of the car. How are things going to end up if you hit a pot hole whilst driving with just the one hand on the wheel for example? Or aquaplaning?

Also, if one of your hands is in use on a mobile then how do you change gear without taking both hands of the wheel? Do you think that's safe as well?

Last time i checked my hands weren't made of straw, the world doesn't end if you hit a pot hole while only having one hand on the wheel... note also that i'm not condoning using a mobile whilst driving here, let's not get it twisted.
 
You deserve the points. Are your calls that important it couldnt have waited 20 mins?

Pathetic attitude if you ask me.

If the police spent as much time and effort investigating real crime - as opposed to filling their coffers with speeding fines and people using their mobile intraffic - they might command a modicum of respect, as they don't, they don't and won't.
 
would all the do gooders get a grip.

He was in TRAFFIC with the HANDBRAKE on. Like he is going to kill someone being still.

If he was flying down the motorway at 70 I agree its dumb. in traffic doing 0mph its stupid and officer also sounds like a moron. whats your insurance got to do with him. how u insure it after he feels the needs to prove his power is your problem.


ohh, coz he has his handbrake on, that makes it alright does it?

what would have happened if someone went up his back side?
 
why would it? if he weren't on the phone his attention would be on the road and his hands on the wheel, he'd be able to react quicker. might have the same consequences but would be able to better protect himself from more injury than if he weren't concentrating. I have never used my phone whilst driving, even at lights stuck in traffic, i wouldn't feel comfortable doing so, especially being in charge of a 1.5 ton weapon.
 
That's the problem with road enforcement today. It leaves no room for judgement up to the driver and relies too heavily upon speed cameras that do absolutely nothing to catch the real dangerous drivers on the road, i.e. old people who can't see their hands on the wheel and would have difficulty escaping from a spontaneous attack from a tortoise, let alone apply the brake fast enough in an emergency situation; drunk/stoned/high as a kite drivers who are well within the speedlimit but don't have a ****ing clue what's going on; and people who are just so inept it's a miracle they don't kill 10 people each time they get behind the wheel.

and here is the problem these people ARE on the road, and could also be on the phone, which is why traffic laws cater for every one so as not to prejudice against any one.

yes you could just answer and say i am driving i wll call you back, or you could not answer and the person ringing would then realize you possibly cant answer, and leave a message, job done

just as a side note, do any of you that don't agree with speeding, mobile etc laws agree with any motoring laws? if so which (just curious thats all)
 
why would it? if he weren't on the phone his attention would be on the road and his hands on the wheel, he'd be able to react quicker. might have the same consequences but would be able to better protect himself from more injury than if he weren't concentrating. I have never used my phone whilst driving, even at lights stuck in traffic, i wouldn't feel comfortable doing so, especially being in charge of a 1.5 ton weapon.


only the other day I was sandwiched in traffic and noticed someone about to rear end me, thankfully I had both hands free and was able to cast the magical teleport spell. thank heavens for that ability, its nullified by mobile phones ya know :(

honestly you are need your head tested if you really believe speaking on your phone whilst in stationery traffic is remotely dangerous
 
why would it? if he weren't on the phone his attention would be on the road and his hands on the wheel, he'd be able to react quicker. might have the same consequences but would be able to better protect himself from more injury than if he weren't concentrating. I have never used my phone whilst driving, even at lights stuck in traffic, i wouldn't feel comfortable doing so, especially being in charge of a 1.5 ton weapon.

And remember, time spent on the phone is a waste of time you could spend planning how to scratch peoples cars who park in the wrong parking space at the supermarket ;)
 
just as a side note, do any of you that don't agree with speeding, mobile etc laws agree with any motoring laws? if so which (just curious thats all)

damn right, as a cab driver in hackney I obey the hay/straw in the boot law, thank god I do, because I moved from bloomsbury square after I kept getting arrested for walking my pig - certainly didnt enjoy rubbing the law up the wrong way there :(

whilst on that note, although not strictly speaking drving related, I'm still waiting for the day I get to let my shot run true and shoot a welshman at westminster cathedral with my bow and arrow ! your days are numbered welshie and your knows it!
 
I havent read through the entire thread, but all I can say is that it does seem over the top, ie. handbrake on, and speaking on the phone - 3 pts. However, this is the law and the rule was applied here. You simply cannot find a way out of it.

The key is that if you do something against the law or break rules, do it in such a way that no one can prove that you actually did it, ie. dont get seen by people doing it and dont get filmed doing it. If there is no solid evidence against you, you can simply plead your innocence and most probably get away with it. This is why people doing 70mph while on the phone, are more likely to get away with something like this, than someone who is parked in a traffic jam. I mean, OJ Simpson got away with murder...

In summary: do what you have to, but dont get caught.
 
I havent read through the entire thread, but all I can say is that it does seem over the top, ie. handbrake on, and speaking on the phone - 3 pts. However, this is the law and the rule was applied here. You simply cannot find a way out of it.

exactly, thats why i got arrested for walking my pig in bloomsbury square :(

the law is utterly faultless

an unescapable force or perfection :cool:
 
exactly, thats why i got arrested for walking my pig in bloomsbury square :(

the law is utterly faultless

an unescapable force or perfection :cool:

I am officially making you a member of the Internets All Stars. I don't know what it is exactly yet but be honoured :)

A Guy said:
just as a side note, do any of you that don't agree with speeding, mobile etc laws agree with any motoring laws? if so which (just curious thats all)

any which aren't retarded. i can't think of any off the top of my head.
 
just as a side note, do any of you that don't agree with speeding, mobile etc laws agree with any motoring laws? if so which (just curious thats all)

I agree with all of them. Using a mobile phone while driving fast or trying to negotiate a busy street is stupid. But whilst stopped in traffic...?

Same with speeding. There's a time and a place, and the police should use their discretion when applying the laws.
 
I am officially making you a member of the Internets All Stars. I don't know what it is exactly yet but be honoured :)

Make this guy a member as well:

what a load of tosh anyway that law is. talking on your mobile is dangerous.....

aye so it is, maybe a bit. so is looking at beautiful women as you drive past, lighting a cigarette while driving, sneezing, looking at all these massive billboards of semi-naked birds advertising stuff. maybe you just fell out with the wife and are really angry and have to drive to work, and your concentration is not really on driving. maybe you have sat-nav and it keeps distracting you (how it is illegal to talk on a mobile but still use sat nav is way beyond me!!!!!!!)

how many times you driven along behind a van / lorry with a load that doesn't look safely attached. nobody rants about that. what about the fact that passing other cars with 2 feet distance between you at 60 miles an hour gives a collision speed of 120 miles per hour, and this is accepted in this safety society?

this country has become safety obsessed, to the point of complete madness. LIFE IS DANGEROUS. people get hurt - stuff happens. you can't legislate for everything, and if people attempt it, as is happening just now, we all end up living in an open prison.

i've read posts on this thread that amaze me. some people here are free thinkers and i applaude you, but some others are just sheep. so easily brainwashed. to the sheep i ask you - now that you will not use your mobile while driving, do you also refuse to change the channel on your radio or press the buttons to move to the next cd track because your eyes have to leave the road, do you never eat a bar of chocolate or drink some water while driving. do you never look at anything as you drive by, but focus exclusively on the road? have you really thought it all through, or do you just accept whatever the authorities tell you to do????

jeez

and to the original poster - i can't believe you got done for that. i feel sorry for you. you were committing no crime in real terms and were causing no danger to a soul.

oh and by the way i use a bluetooth headset always, and have done since before the ban came in, but was i more dangerous when i held the phone to my ear - i think not.

getting drunk and driving is a bad thing, but talking on the phone..........

lets get real.


what the hell, this one too:

oh yes, using your phone whilst driving, the political equivalent to shooting a child in the face with a shotgun.

:D
 
Pathetic attitude if you ask me.

If the police spent as much time and effort investigating real crime - as opposed to filling their coffers with speeding fines and people using their mobile intraffic - they might command a modicum of respect, as they don't, they don't and won't.

There's a very simple way to avoid being caught. It involves not doing said illegal act in the first place. If people did that, maybe the police would actually have time to investigate these "real crimes" of which you speak.
 
There's a very simple way to avoid being caught. It involves not doing said illegal act in the first place. If people did that, maybe the police would actually have time to investigate these "real crimes" of which you speak.

Another way would be to look around, before doing the "said illegal act" and make sure you dont get caught.
 
I agree with all of them. Using a mobile phone while driving fast or trying to negotiate a busy street is stupid. But whilst stopped in traffic...?

Same with speeding. There's a time and a place, and the police should use their discretion when applying the laws.

and who gets to decide on when is the time and place?
there is no where in the law that says if its 9pm and the road is empty its ok to go over the speed limit.
or if stopped at traffic lights its ok to use the phone for a second.

whether people agree with them or not we are supposed to abide by them, i assume burglars/rapists etc also don't agree with laws that say they cant to what they do, or is it ok when its the time and place?
please don't say its not the same as i know, its just an example except that they are both breaking the law
 
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