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Well i wouldn't expect much from kaby lake anyway, it's just a refresh. Things may start getting interesting with Cannonlake, may.. if they start to increase core count on mainstream chips.
If not then i guess best bet is Icelake which is the next new architecture. But IPC gains haven't seen any huge boosts for a long time, i only went x99 because i wanted to move from x58 so in my case it was mostly worth it.
.I keep getting the urge to upgrade but I think you are right in waiting, as has been said there's only a slight increase between the last few generations. I will probably only upgrade if my system breaks or someone in the family needs a PC and I will pass mine on.
I run two rigs at the moment, once running Skylake (6700k) and one running Sandy (3630k) as I live between two places.
Both rigs run 4.8GHZ 24/7.
One of the biggest jumps I notice in general usage is down to the switch between SATA SSD in the Sandy rig and NVMe disk in Skylake. NVMe feels like silk compared to SATA.
In terms of FPS, the difference between Sandy Bridge and Skylake rig is about 15fps in Total War: warhammer (around 30% faster from memory) with Ultra settings in 1080p. In some battles, the difference can be approaching 40%.
No difference in FPS in the division as its very GPU bound in 1080p.
As I have posted elsewhere, the 1080p difference in any RTS produced by Blizzard can be m00ssive, this is also helped by the RAM speed difference of 2166 in Sandy and 3700 in Skylake.
Battlefield 4 I run in low-detail on multi-player and the difference is about 20% although I must stress that I run at 144hz on my monitors so i can see the benefit of skylake more clearer in this game.
I could go on but I think it depends on what your frame-rate target as and the game. If you game at 60hz its just not worth it imo unless you want to play Total War a lot. I think you can get big gains in certain situations, its not as cut and dry and some posters would like to believe.
Both rigs run 4.8GHZ 24/7.
One of the biggest jumps I notice in general usage is down to the switch between SATA SSD in the Sandy rig and NVMe disk in Skylake. NVMe feels like silk compared to SATA.
In terms of FPS, the difference between Sandy Bridge and Skylake rig is about 15fps in Total War: warhammer (around 30% faster from memory) with Ultra settings in 1080p. In some battles, the difference can be approaching 40%.
No difference in FPS in the division as its very GPU bound in 1080p.
As I have posted elsewhere, the 1080p difference in any RTS produced by Blizzard can be m00ssive, this is also helped by the RAM speed difference of 2166 in Sandy and 3700 in Skylake.
Battlefield 4 I run in low-detail on multi-player and the difference is about 20% although I must stress that I run at 144hz on my monitors so i can see the benefit of skylake more clearer in this game.
I could go on but I think it depends on what your frame-rate target as and the game. If you game at 60hz its just not worth it imo unless you want to play Total War a lot. I think you can get big gains in certain situations, its not as cut and dry and some posters would like to believe.
Yes I think this is why the decision is so tough!
Seems to me (from what i have read) that at 1080p on intensive games, FPS/CPU gains between sandybridge and skylake can be substantial, as the graphics card is not the bottleneck (again depending on your gcard as well!). However once you start upping to 1440p and above with high settings, the graphics card begins to strain and the differences in FPS start to even out.
Based on that, I decided because I'm at 1440p 60hz, there isn't a huge amount of advantage upgrading CPU at this stage from 2500K with OC and that a gtx 1070 will do for now.
Battlefield 1 may change all this however
Seems to me (from what i have read) that at 1080p on intensive games, FPS/CPU gains between sandybridge and skylake can be substantial, as the graphics card is not the bottleneck (again depending on your gcard as well!). However once you start upping to 1440p and above with high settings, the graphics card begins to strain and the differences in FPS start to even out.
Based on that, I decided because I'm at 1440p 60hz, there isn't a huge amount of advantage upgrading CPU at this stage from 2500K with OC and that a gtx 1070 will do for now.
Battlefield 1 may change all this however
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No it won't bf1 alpha ran very smooth with my 4.7 3770k and 980ti at 1440p
Dx12 changes everything
You'll be fine with your sandybridge
Dx12 changes everything
You'll be fine with your sandybridge
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I'll be getting Kabylake, not because I think the processors will be much of an upgrade over my 2500K, but because I want all the new motherboard features that have occurred since my Z68 chipset motherboard.
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Especially with DX12 giving us low end ageing high/mid end cpu users a hand in the coming future of games ( i use a 2600k ) the life span of these chips has just expanded really. I see a lot of people maxing out the likes of ROTT on benchmarks with 6700k's and finding DX12 actually runs a bit worse for them but on my end im gaining about 18fps for a game that was patched to use it and not designed for it. Probably going to wait a couple more generations now.
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Sandy K chips must be among the best ever made.
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I had my i7 920 on x58 for about 6yrs before upgrading, and be a while before i upgrade again.
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yup, still sporting a 3930K, shows no signs of aging.
Of course they can do you honestly think Intel is propped up by those who want the latest and greatest?
Their main business is selling boatloads of units to OEM builders and the people that buy those system almost certainly care very little about it having the newest CPU.
people keep spouting DX12 will help yes it might if it is actually used across the gaming platform and look at what games are using it literally none.
also if you check the wiki list for dx12 games you will see there isnt even that many being made either currently.big games takes atleast 2-3 years to be made and if they arent being made now you may aswell just assume its a waste of time.
i think it will end up superseded long before anything of merit happens . bit like dx10.
literally none.also if you check the wiki list for dx12 games you will see there isnt even that many being made either currently.big games takes atleast 2-3 years to be made and if they arent being made now you may aswell just assume its a waste of time.
i think it will end up superseded long before anything of merit happens . bit like dx10.
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people keep spouting DX12 will help yes it might if it is actually used across the gaming platform and look at what games are using it
also if you check the wiki list for dx12 games you will see there isnt even that many being made either currently.big games takes atleast 2-3 years to be made and if they arent being made now you may aswell just assume its a waste of time.
i think it will end up superseded long before anything of merit happens . bit like dx10.
Superseded by what? The uptake has been faster than DX10 and DX11.
My question is similar. When is Skylake-E coming out?
I have a 4670K at 4.6Ghz day to day. I want to move to NVME. But the cost just for that seems pretty strong for me to justify. Would £70 cost moving to a 4790K be worth it for gaming?
I have a 4670K at 4.6Ghz day to day. I want to move to NVME. But the cost just for that seems pretty strong for me to justify. Would £70 cost moving to a 4790K be worth it for gaming?