Buying a new car from dealers

jamoor · 5 Dec 2007 at 00:56

Gaygle said:
I think the question you should be asking is......how in gods name did you allow yourself to spend 3k on car repairs?

Buying new cars often have more problems than used cars! The amount of time friends/family members have had to take their "new" cars back to the dealer to get a whole loada stuff done on warranty.

If you're sick of repair bills and ultimately just want peace of mind, you should go for approved used cars. Not only will you have a car that is going to be as reliable as it can be, but you'll also have a who load more money in your pocket.

I've posted in many a thread exactly like this before and i know the OP's of these kind of threads just don't listen to good advice, but I'm going to reiterate what fox said, just to see if maybe this time it will work.

"Whatever you do, don't spend 12k on a Polo."

approved used doesnt mean reliable at all, just means a warranty.

If you want reliable, get a toyota.

Gaygle · 5 Dec 2007 at 01:00

jamoor said:
approved used doesnt mean reliable at all, just means a warranty.

If you want reliable, get a toyota.

Gaygle said:
If you're sick of repair bills and ultimately just want peace of mind, you should go for approved used cars. Not only will you have a car that is going to be as reliable as it can be, but you'll also have a who load more money in your pocket.

Never said it was going to be reliable, i said as reliable as they can be.Examples that come from approved used will have had 125pt checks, service history checks, electrics checks and must be mechanically sound, hence, usually the place to buy the most reliable example of the car from.

romperstomper · 5 Dec 2007 at 01:02

jamoor said:
approved used doesnt mean reliable at all, just means a warranty.

Yeah and the warranty on a used car don't mean jack *** as I found out ,even took the garage to court and lost the case :confused:

jamoor · 5 Dec 2007 at 01:02

Gaygle said:
Never said it was going to be reliable, i said as reliable as they can be.Examples that come from approved used will have had 125pt checks and must be mechanically sound, hence, usually the place to buy the most reliable example of the car from.

Did you ever read about that guy on here who bought an AUC BMW and it turned out to be a total dog?

jamoor · 5 Dec 2007 at 01:02

romperstomper said:
Yeah and the warranty on a used car don't mean jack s*** as I found out ,even took the garage to court and lost the case

Who supplied the warranty, a franchised dealer or a del boy type 3rd party warranty company?

Gaygle · 5 Dec 2007 at 01:04

jamoor said:
Did you ever read about that guy on here who bought an AUC BMW and it turned out to be a total dog?

Gaygle said:
Never said it was going to be reliable, i said as reliable as they can be.Examples that come from approved used will have had 125pt checks, service history checks, electrics checks and must be mechanically sound, hence, usually the place to buy the most reliable example of the car from.

Honestly. It gets boring having to quote myself. May i suggest you read the post before you reply? :rolleyes:

romperstomper · 5 Dec 2007 at 01:08

jamoor said:
Who supplied the warranty, a franchised dealer or a del boy type 3rd party warranty company?

Erm Del boy

[TW]Fox · 5 Dec 2007 at 01:13

romperstomper said:
This might seem madness for a polo but its only about £48 a week for 3 years

Thats £7500 over 3 years. With absolutely zilcho to show for it. Nothing at all. At the end of the 3 years, no car. Gone. £7500 on hiring a car..

including full service and parts ,so no bills for 3 years.

Except a big monthly finance bill obviously!

Then you give it back and get a new one again !

For another £7500 over 3 years.

Why? Whats the point when £5000 gets you a perfectly reliable A to B car which, after 3 years, you still have?

[TW]Fox · 5 Dec 2007 at 01:14

romperstomper said:
clio ,new auto box ,and just about every other thing you can think of !

Well thats your problem. £3k a year on repairs is an exceptionally high cost - I doubt anyone else has experienced that on this forum and there are some hugely expensive and complex cars on this forum.

Phil W · 5 Dec 2007 at 01:17

[TW]Fox;10623884 said:
Why? Whats the point when £5000 gets you a perfectly reliable A to B car which, after 3 years, you still have?

Some people simply don't see (or refuse to see) things in the same light as others, which is why he's prepared to flutter money on a car such as that.

We will still sleep at night

[TW]Fox · 5 Dec 2007 at 01:22

See I've no problem with people spending whatever they want on cars. If cars is their thing, spend £10,000 or £100,000 on one if it makes you happy.

But if cars are not your thing, and you just want a normal everyday car, whats the point? It would be like spending £1000 on a dishwasher when a £300 one would be sufficient.

Well no, it'd be like spending £10 a week, every week, for the rest of your life on a dishwasher...

Trojan · 5 Dec 2007 at 09:04

romperstomper said:
Wrong they do a sports model and gti ,they have come along way from whence they started and you can get every extra you can think of !

Have you actually read the reviews of the Polo GTi? Every one I've read is less than complimentary. If you must spend this sort of money on a smallish hatch why not consider something like a Leon FR or something?

romperstomper · 5 Dec 2007 at 10:29

I'm not getting a GTI :confused:

I was hoping for a more mature response from people that had brought a new car from a dealers and managed to knock down the price ,I was not asking for opions in my choice of vehicle ! Oh well I did expect some flak from the teenie boppers

Trojan · 5 Dec 2007 at 10:33

romperstomper said:
I'm not getting a GTI

If the top of the range GTi gets poor reviews, how do you think the rest of the range is going to stack up?

romperstomper said:
I was hoping for a more mature response from people that had brought a new car from a dealers and managed to knock down the price

What's immature about pointing out the fact that you seem to set through good money down the pan on a decidedly average car?

romperstomper said:
I was not asking for opions in my choice of vehicle !

If you don't want opinions, don't post on a public forum.

romperstomper said:
Oh well I did expect some flak from the teenie boppers

romperstomper · 5 Dec 2007 at 10:39

Trojan ,my comments were not aimed at you apart from the gti bit

Gaygle · 5 Dec 2007 at 12:05

TBH i'm not criticising your choice of vehicle, i'm criticising the price you're willing to pay for it. You're reacting the same as every other OP of these kind of threads. Do you really think we're trying to help you not make a mistake and save you money for our benefit?!

Apatche64 · 5 Dec 2007 at 12:10

hi mate,

i'll try and help you out ...

firstly can i say that if you wanna spend 12k on a polo you go for it mate, it's your money and your effort at work that pays for it.

if you want a polo then i'd say instead of buying brand new, consider one which is preregistered, this basically means it's brand new, but has been registered so will be about 1k cheaper

another good option is to buy a car that is a couple of years old, which has been serviced at that garage, so you can ask them about what has gone wrong etc. this will give you some peace of mind aswell as saving you probably £4k on your choice of polo.

i will say now that spending £7k on a car for three years and not having anything to show for it is not advisable. if you want to buy the car new why not buy it on hp so that you have some value in the car in three years time, i.e instead of giving the car back you would be part exchanging it, and if you buy well can reduce the amount you pay in the future.

getting money off dealerships is quite straight forward, even for VW's (think there's abit special) all you have to do is go to more than one VW dealership in the area, get a price and make sure they know that you are going to smithkightfay (example) and also how much you've seen one on the internet but would like to buy face to face. if you say live in manchester, go to the 5 or 6 dealers there are around and ask them for a quote. they know there's competeing with the others so should give you a good price.

then go to the second cheapest and say the cheapest where doing this price and throwing in free servicing for three years, see what they offer you.

so in summary, buy one brand new by all means, but i'd advise against the (hand it back option) becuase you could just part exchange your car (it's the same thing but enables you to use the residual value in your car)

lastly i'd say you've been really unlucky with the car you've bought and spent 3k on in repairs, and i can understand your reaction to this, but please be aware you are just peed off with your experience. french cars are not the best made, but shouldn't go that wrong really. a vw should be more reliable, as will almost any other car, so try and trust the brand and get one that is a few years old, with brilliant history etc. you have the money to be very picky, if you want a polo get one, no probs, you could have all the toys, biggest wheels going etc, but in a car that will be worth something in the future, and if you experience any finacial difficulties in the future wont force you to keep on paying the monthly payments.

jamief · 5 Dec 2007 at 12:17

My take (as someone who will be leasing a car next year) : If you're going to spend £2500 a year on leasing a car, get something decent! Why get a run of the mill dullmobile? And a Polo GTi is, unfortunately, still a Polo.

James_N · 5 Dec 2007 at 12:39

A second hand car can be reliable. Mine is 18 years old and cost £100. All thats ever failed is a rad hose which cost pennies to fix!

If you do end up buying a new polo, you will be very bored with it after a few months and the whole "new car" feeling has worn away.

[TW]Fox · 5 Dec 2007 at 13:03

romperstomper said:
Oh well I did expect some flak from the teenie boppers

Then might I suggest you take your Polo and go and post somewhere else if thats your attitude?

Honestly, the irony of somebody who wishes to buy a silly little Polo calling everyone else a 'Teenie bopper' is overwhelming.

I've been mature and polite throughout but now I'm bored of that. Go and spend a fortune on a crap car, you'll love it. Finance up your life, it rocks. Don't forget to pop into Currys on the way home and finance a 50" TV, a new dishwasher, a washing machine and a Playstation 3. Remember kids, nothing else matters except the cost per week!

Given you are clearly uninterested in our advice and obviously think you know best (But really, what sort of a person thinks that becuase they had a £3000 a year repair bill on a rubbish Clio that this is reflective of every car that isnt brand new? Did you have an acute IQ failure when you came up with that one?), what was the point in wasting your time posting anyway?

To the rest of the forum - this guy has made his mind up, don't waste any more of your effort trying to save him from himself. It's not 'mature' you know.

Lets close by drooling over this £12,000 epic wondercar:

Wow. A bargain.