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Why would a measurement need to be blind tested? This isnt a claim that cant be backed up with measurement, its a measurement that you're dismissing because it hasn't been blind tested? what on earth are you trying to do? why are you so against the idea that twin flex isnt always the answer? Why does that wind you up soo much? It's not like i'm saying don't use twin flex. Why would I, it works fine on my big old onkyo amp and just about everything else I've ever owned. In most cases it really is enough. But you know what? if you want to know if you can hear a drop of 3.5db at 18khz, then just try it - set up an eq and drop it in that region? Can you hear it? You bet your backside you should hear it. And feel free to disprove those findings in th earticle, though just like that $1m reward, nobody has managed it yet and as you quite rightly pointed out (however insidiously) - that article was written 20 years ago. So it's stood rather well then, in my books.
Firstly, this relates to the issue where some amplifiers can oscillate if the cable inductance is too low. Not at all related to what I'm talking about and it's easily solved without buying a new amp (ching ching $$$).
Annnnd that's what I've said from the beginning. A thick bit of twin flex isn't necessarily properly designed for the application.
stop now, Dowie.
round and round and round you go. It doesn't make what you are saying any more coherent. This is all just noise, pardon the pun. It's about the right cable for the job and it doesn't have to be expensive. I am not nit picking if a blanket statement is demonstrably false. You need to stop with that angle as it simple isn't true. A thick copper cable isn't always the best answer. It might 'work', it might even be 'enough', but it isn't optimal. "nobody is going to tell a decent well made cable from an ordinary thick bit of copper" - that was your claim, that was wrong and that's what I took issue with. Stop trying to muddy the discussion with cost. Cost is irrelevant to this (our) particular discussion.dowie said:You've repeatedly quoted me to essentially nit pick/argue some edge case relating to a specific speaker and some claimed issue with inductance
audiholics said:If one owns an amplifier that gets squirrelly with certain cables or is even bothered by cables at all, it is best to consider a better, not necessarily more expensive, amplifier that is not so touchy because using cables in this way does not solve the fundamental problem that still exists with the amplifier. It is this engineer’s opinion that any properly designed amplifier, one with low output impedance, proper usage of negative feedback, and a good power supply, is the best way to solve cable problems, and it would seem to be the solution favored by the authors as well.
Firstly, this relates to the issue where some amplifiers can oscillate if the cable inductance is too low. Not at all related to what I'm talking about and it's easily solved without buying a new amp (ching ching $$$).
This leads back to the Audioholics stance that any properly designed cable is as good as any other. The basis of the statement is supported in probability.
Annnnd that's what I've said from the beginning. A thick bit of twin flex isn't necessarily properly designed for the application.
stop now, Dowie.
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