can anyone help with new computer?

lukespug · 24 Aug 2011 at 00:22

hey everyone, im building a new pc to use throughout uni doing a games design course. so i will be using programs like 3ds max, unreal editor ect. and also some major gaming including upcoming games like bf3 and skyrim. im on a budget on around £500-£600.
ive shopped around and looked at parts i need, i just need someone in the know to guide me in the right direction, any advice is welcome.

AMD Phenom II X6 Black Edition 1090T 3.2GHz
Asus m5a97 AM3+ socket, maybe the m5a99x because of sli. (i chose this socket as it supports bulldozer cpus which i can upgrade to later on.)
asus 550 Ti 1gb
500w power supply (good make such as corsair/ocz)
1TB Sata HD
DVD-RW

i just want to know if this seems a decent build, and will i get to play my games with nice framerates?
thankyou

stulid · 24 Aug 2011 at 00:23

Sandybridge is faster.

What do you need? a base unit? operating system etc?

lukespug · 24 Aug 2011 at 00:34

i plan to use win 7 home, i would like to know if this build seems ok, and any alternatives to the parts ive chosen, do i have a good cpu? gpu ect.

stulid · 24 Aug 2011 at 00:35

Basically, a Intel i5 2500K is faster - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=146

So hows this,

Using a 6870 card which you can see here is faster than a 550ti - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_550_Ti_Sonic/23.html

lukespug · 24 Aug 2011 at 00:36

and i thought about intel, but with them always changing sockets and what not it doesnt give me much long term benefits, as AMD's am3+ socket will.

stulid · 24 Aug 2011 at 00:37

lukespug said:
and i thought about intel, but with them always changing sockets and what not it doesnt give me much long term benefits, as AMD's am3+ socket will.

Intel Ivybridge is socket1155 also, they are due next year.

http://www.techpowerup.com/143951/Intel-Ivy-Bridge-Feature-Set-Detailed.html

Reaper 392 · 24 Aug 2011 at 00:48

stulid, might seem like a dumb question, but would an Nvidia card with its cuda cores help with game design? i know it wont be as fast for the money in terms of FPS in games but i know some CAD/CAM programs get sped up enormously with nvidia cards, and game design involves a lot of 3D modelling so it might help

stulid · 24 Aug 2011 at 00:50

Reaper 392 said:
stulid, might seem like a dumb question, but would an Nvidia card with its cuda cores help with game design? i know it wont be as fast for the money in terms of FPS in games but i know some CAD/CAM programs get sped up enormously with nvidia cards, and game design involves a lot of 3D modelling so it might help

Nah.

Reaper 392 · 24 Aug 2011 at 00:52

stulid said:
Nah.

ok. it was a thought though

@lukespug: if you can cope without windows 7 for a while its quite likely that you'll be able to get windows 7 professional for free from your uni. if not then it'll only be ~£40 from student software sites

stulid · 24 Aug 2011 at 00:53

Reaper 392 said:
ok. it was a thought though

I know, I did try a 560ti build, but it was over budget, and the above is sweat enough.

Unless he comes back and says he wants Win7, already has a case etc.

Reaper 392 · 24 Aug 2011 at 01:00

stulid said:
I know, I did try a 560ti build, but it was over budget, and the above is sweat enough.

Unless he comes back and says he wants Win7, already has a case etc.

yeah, i see what you mean. not pretty when you put the 560Ti in there:

totally auful build with a great graphics card
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti Twin FrozR II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £173.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £172.99
1 x Asus P8P67 LE Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard ** B3 REVISION ** £70.98
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L7 530W '80 Plus' Power Supply £45.98
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BL2KIT51264BA160A) £43.19
1 x Cooler Master Elite 370 Case - Black £32.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £30.98
1 x LiteOn IHAS124-19 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £600.70 (includes shipping : £10.50).

dont go for this

Jony27 · 24 Aug 2011 at 01:05

meh, i tried a build which is £600 on the dot, gives you an option of crossfiring the 6850 in the future

only 500GB HDD and 4GB RAM though

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £172.99
1 x OcUK ATI Radeon HD 6870 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **PRE-ORDER ONLY PRICE** £119.99
1 x MSI P67A-GD53 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard ** B3 REVISION ** £107.99
1 x Lepa B-Series 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply £74.98
1 x Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £37.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500413AS) £30.98
1 x Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9AD3B1K2/4G) £23.99
1 x LG GH22NS70 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £600.00 (includes shipping : £11.75).

lukespug · 24 Aug 2011 at 10:26

Reaper 392 said:
yeah, i see what you mean. not pretty when you put the 560Ti in there:

totally auful build with a great graphics card
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti Twin FrozR II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £173.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £172.99
1 x Asus P8P67 LE Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard ** B3 REVISION ** £70.98
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L7 530W '80 Plus' Power Supply £45.98
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BL2KIT51264BA160A) £43.19
1 x Cooler Master Elite 370 Case - Black £32.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £30.98
1 x LiteOn IHAS124-19 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £600.70 (includes shipping : £10.50).

dont go for this

may sound dumb but why is this so bad?

also thanks to everyone for your input, it helps a lot. im going to see if i can get win7 with a student card. and yeah i will need a new case, but seen some decent ones for £40. and i think i will be going for the i5 now, i just thought the X6 will be better for 3d max work, im sure i read about it somewhere...

stulid · 24 Aug 2011 at 10:28

lukespug said:
may sound dumb but why is this so bad?

500Gb slower harddrive, worse PSU, memory timings are slacker.

But as its wednesday, the special deals have changed,

Good quality PSU - http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=248