Caporegime
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Robots.
Can someone explain...
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Robots.
If we get desperate they’ll dig it up, but the focus is more on cleaner energy nowadays, given the state of the environment, climate change, etc.
The same will happen with oil at some point. It will become uneconomic to extract it unless we get super desperate for it.
The same will happen with oil at some point. It will become uneconomic to extract it unless we get super desperate for it.
Because they were being paid more then the job was worth. If they had been earning less, their jobs may have lasted longer, but they probably won't want them as much.
They were being paid more than the coal was worth. I wouldn't say it was more than the job was worth, as such, because the job was still horrible and dangerous. Digging anything out of the ground in those conditions would command a high wage, it just depends on whether you can do anything with whatever you're digging out once you've got it.
if they were each earning more than a headmaster earns (I'm slightly skeptical about that claim!) then they were being paid like say offshore oil and gas workers today.... were the former pit towns in the North of England and in South Wales really flooded with cash and high property prices like Aberdeen has been more recently because of all these cash rich manual workers back in the day?
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Are you saying miners earned the equivalent of £70k?
If so, then why did the miners live in ****** two up, two down houses?
Just because a job is dangerous or just plain hard dirty work to do doesn't inherently make it a higher earning job. It was the union actions made the wages higher than they should have been for what was being produced. This has good and bad effects. Good because it's nice to paid be paid well, bad if it causes you to loss your job in the end because the money has to come from somewhere. The only way this is possible in the long term is if the government/tax payer pays the shortfall.
UK deep pit coal did cost at least 50% more than just importing it.
You could earn around £42K, £50+ with overtime at the pit face. This would be the best job for the manual workers who had no skills before entering the profession.
More senior workers, such as engineers that built and maintained equipment could earn £60-£75K.
Given 90% of mines are up north with it's lower cost of living they were doing extremely well.
So being brought back down to reality with £15-20K jobs at best they had on overinflated sense of entitlement and created a lot of "I'm not working for that amount" brigade, I suspect that's why some communities didn't recover.
If you lived in a small house all your life you probably don't care, and I would assume that would be the main type of housing available in the mining areas. Even if you wanted a large 4 bed detached and could afford it, there probably wasn't enough housing of that type in the area. It seems miners liked to spend their money booze, holidays and cars, but didn't save/invest much.
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Unlike you I have worked with 1000s of people over the last 4 decades and I actually get out of the house so grow up you stupid troll.
I NEVER tell lies on here and I don't make things up HOWEVER I also don't call other people liars and if Pete tells me he earned more back then I have no reason to call him a liar.
Really, just shut your mouth troll.
And while you're at it troll name me some of these fictitious mates
I can see there is probably some truth in it - oil and gas workers earn good money too (or at least they did before the price went down) - but I wonder if it is more the specialist, senior miners vs say the salary of a rather new head teacher... I mean head teachers can earn six figure sums these days even
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Got to come clean, I said Headmaster instead of Head Teacher.
The picture on the right is why I know him.
I can also 100% state that my Brother in Law was on £1000 a week when the pits shut down in the role of a fitter/maintenance guy.
He now works at Toyota in a similar role for half the money but obviously doesn't work the hours he did back then.
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Ah, says he's assistant principal - not the actual principal (principal = head teacher = head master). So that's about 45k. Much more believable.
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I've known him for at least two decades and I really thought he was Headmaster because I've heard that many people say it but I'm getting 'head of' mixed up. However my point still stands. You reckon he's probably on about 45k and he says he earned more as a miner. I also know that Miners did put a lot of hours in to earn that kind of money on ridiculous overtime rates. We have another engineering firm round here called JCB and the workers will always tell you what wages they got but would never say how many hours they had put in. One of my cousins started working there and I was gobsmacked at his wage packet until he told me his hours - 12 hours a day from Mon to Sat and 4 hours on a Sunday - enjoy your money Gaz.