Can we all sue Apple ?

[Mr-White]

Apple Pays South Korean Man 1 Million Won
Apple came under heavy fire in April when it was exposed that iOS 4 had been tracking and storing the location of its users, be it through GPS data or Wi-Fi.

More here

If one sues and wins surely everyone can using this case ?

MW

 

[Pawnless Endgame]

Triangulating is useful for 999 emergencies or against criminals running away from the law. I wouldn't like Apple to sell the tracking data to advertisers though, especially if they included the phone number of the handset.

 

[Vonhelmet]

Pathetic.

 

[Glaucus]

Triangulating is useful for 999 emergencies or against criminals running away from the law. I wouldn't like Apple to sell the tracking data to advertisers though, especially if they included the phone number of the handset.

Apple didn't collect the info. It was stored on the phone for app access that required gps data. It had been on for several iOS versions and is in many other OS, the problem was that in ios4, they moved the file from it's original place to and open unencrypted place, for easier access by apps you allow gps access.

Anyone can sue anyone, so yes. Doesn't mean you'll win.

 

[Ekim]

1,000,000 won is only worth £600

 

[nshire]

Well if everyone sues Apple. Maybe they will forget about sueing Motorola, HTC and Samsung with the most vaguest patents ever!

 

[orderoftheflame]

1,000,000 won is only worth £600

This ^^.

£1 = 1700 won.

 

[Glaucus]

Well if everyone sues Apple. Maybe they will forget about sueing Motorola, HTC and Samsung with the most vaguest patents ever!

God how can people keep bring that up, big businesses sue each other every day of the week, it is an every day occurrence and everyone does it.

 

[Biohazard]

Pathetic.

What's pathetic?

 

[churchhawk]

Yes lets all do it.

 

[Glaucus]

What's pathetic?

The claim.
I expect you would be laughed out of court in the uk.

 

[Freelanc3r]

 

[Vonhelmet]

What's pathetic?

The idea that we should all sue for something that made perfect technical sense.

 

[Biohazard]

The claim.
I expect you would be laughed out of court in the uk.

The idea that we should all sue for something that made perfect technical sense.

Are you notified in the terms and conditions of the contract, or in any material provided with the phone that it will store that information etc?

Would either of you know?

 

[Noxia]

Yawn

 

[Glaucus]

Are you notified in the terms and conditions of the contract, or in any material provided with the phone that it will store that information etc?

Would either of you know?

Yes and yes I do know.
The agreement actually allows apple to gather and transmit the data. But they don't transmit it. So it doesn't even go as far as the agreement.
It was poorly reported by the media, no surprise there.

It does not track you and neither is the information sent back to apple.
The information is gathered so that gps apps have an idea of where you are as soon as you open the app, before a gps signal is obtained. It had been in previuse versions of IOS. Security experts had no issues with it being gathered and also had no problem saying it wasn't transmitted back to Apple.
There was only one problem, they moved the file from an encrypted part of the IOS in previuse versions to an unsecured area in iOS4, to allow 3rd part apps access. Whilst retaining os security. The problem was they forgot or didn't think to encrypt the file. The update encrypted the file and solved an issue that data. Was continually stored where now. Old data is deleted.

So all in all no. One was being tracked, apple did not have access to it, despite the T&Cs and the only issue was that it was stored in an unencrypted file.

 

[Biohazard]

Yes and yes I do know.

What does it say? That it will store location co-ordinates or similar?

Do the T&C's come in a fashion that cannot be overlooked or denied; like breaking the EULA on a microsoft CD cover?

Don't have an iPhone if you can't guess sorry

 

[Glaucus]

You have to accept the t&cs before you can install the iOS update.

The t&cs are in the thread about it as well as what the security experts actually said. That the file should be encrypted, not that you were being tracked or anything else.

 

[Glaucus]

Here we go everyone agreed to it.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article..._us_congressmens_query_about_ios_privacy.html

Bruce Sewell, general counsel for Apple, responded with a letter dated July 12, which explained the basics of the privacy policy revisions. Last month, the company added a new section to its customer privacy policy entitled "Location-Based Services." Users were required to agree to the new terms and conditions before they could download anything from iTunes or the App Store. Sewell said the company did this to ensure that everyone would see the changes.

The update said Apple and its partners could "collect, use and share precise location data, including real-time geographic location" of a device. The information could be supplied anonymously to help Apple's partners and licensees provide better products and services, but a user's personal information is never shared. Users can opt out of the service by visiting oo.apple.com.

In the letter, Sewell said Apple keeps location data for six months to improve its iAd network. After that, the information is aggregated.

And what it is actually for and what happens

http://alexlevinson.wordpress.com/2...es-with-the-latest-iphone-tracking-discovery/

 

[Natwee]

my bf sued apple