Can you be fired for having ADHD if they knew you had it when you started work?

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The bit we seem to be missing is why he is saying this. Care to share why he might have this impression?
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Stop trying to bait him, It does not matter what the issue is his employer needs to learn some respect. People think because they are manager it means slave driver, And free to humiliate people.


Think again managers because at 5pm you are just normal people easily chinable with a swift hook off the premises.
 
In my own completely clueless opinion, ADHD is not a legitimate condtion. More an excuse.

It sounds like you have deeper grounded social issues that you need to overcome, and this particular manager simply isn't going about that the right way. For what it's worth, I can't stand new managers who come into a workplace and immediately set about metaphorically plastering their scent around the place. Sounds just like what you're seeing here.

Could you perhaps describe a little more about how your condition plays into your daily working life, and just how it's attracted the ire of this new boss?
 
Rofflay said:
Stop trying to bait him, It does not matter what the issue is his employer needs to learn some respect. People think because they are manager it means slave driver, And free to humiliate people.
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People think that when a manager is doing his job, he is a slave driver and bent on humiliating people. Those people are destined for failure in this world.

Rofflay said:
Think again managers because at 5pm you are just normal people easily chinable with a swift hook.
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Managers are there to feed their kids just like anybody else. They just get paid more than you. Don't hate them for it.
 
Goodluck being a manager without employees then haha. Managers think they are all that, Nothing but overpaid lick the bums who spent ages going through the same themselves on zero hour contracts only to get to the top of the pyramid and shout finally!

Now its my turn!
 
Participant said:
People think that when a manager is doing his job, he is a slave driver and bent on humiliating people. Those people are destined for failure in this world.



Managers are there to feed their kids just like anybody else. They just get paid more than you. Don't hate them for it.
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Scream in my face at work and you will pay a heavy price.
 
Rofflay said:
Goodluck being a manager without employees then haha. Managers think they are all that, Nothing but overpaid lick the bums who spent ages going through the same themselves on zero hour contracts only to get to the top of the pyramid and shout finally!

Now its my turn!
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Maybe in mickey mouse organisations. In proper work, the cream rises to the top. These people are smarter and better than the type of person that calls managers 'lick the bums', like a 17 year old call centre worker would.

And I'd rather be an overpaid 'lick the bum' with a roof over my head, than a bitter grunt worker scraping by on minimum wage just because I have no ambition or talent.

But this is all beside the point...there's no such thing as a free pass to behave like a child in the workplace, just because you may or may not have ADHD.

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Scream in my face at work and you will pay a heavy price.
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This is the OP's version of events. This was probably a) highly exaggerated and b) deserved. I know this thread was always going to attract loads of 'managers suck' sperg lords, but try to have some perspective.
 
So he screams at you that your behaviour is childish ... hmm that seems rather ironic to me. You say your presentation of ADHD affects your performance at work and acknowledge that. Could there be two things going on here 1) you do have a problem that needs addressing 2) he has a problem that needs addressing. Moreover, the fact that you have a disability means your workplace has to put in appropriate and feasible measures for you - it does not mean you have to bend over backwards and work for less pay and be "grateful".
 
Participant said:
Maybe in mickey mouse organisations. In proper work, the cream rises to the top. These people are smarter and better than the type of person that calls managers 'lick the bums', like a 17 year old call centre worker would.

And I'd rather be an overpaid 'lick the bum' with a roof over my head, than a bitter grunt worker scraping by on minimum wage just because I have no ambition or talent.

But this is all beside the point...there's no such thing as a free pass to behave like a child in the workplace, just because you may or may not have ADHD.



This is the OP's version of events. This was probably a) highly exaggerated and b) deserved. I know this thread was always going to attract loads of 'managers suck' sperg lords, but try to have some perspective.
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Ouch someone touched a nerve LOL


But this is all beside the point...there's no such thing as a free pass to behave like a child in the workplace, just because you may or may not have ADHD.
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And there is a freepass for his screaming abusive boss breaking employment laws? Hypocrite and you call you and other managers better people? Sorry but since when did earning more equal better? By the sounds of it your are in moral poverty.
 
well, i can imagine the screaming was more of a raised voice when the OP decided to argue with the MD.

now blames his disability for getting into a fight with the MD in the hope he doesn't get sacked.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
Isn't ADHD one of those fictional illnesses anyway?
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AFAIK diagnosis is a bit dubious and it appeals to middle class parents seeking special labels.

Little Johnny doesn't just struggle at reading and writing he's 'dyslexic'... he doesn't misbehave in class he's got 'ADHD' etc...
 
Participant said:
This is the OP's version of events. This was probably a) highly exaggerated and b) deserved. I know this thread was always going to attract loads of 'managers suck' sperg lords, but try to have some perspective.
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You have no reason to doubt the op's version of events and nor have I therefore all comments should be in relation to the stated events, the decade plus employment history that began with the employers full knowledge of a pre existing medical condition and the new person in a position of authority would tend to support the op's position and version and according to our understanding the new guy is behaving in a most unprofessional manner and probably breaking employment law while in a probationary period and imho laying himself open to dismissal rather than the op, a probationary period notwithstanding the screaming in a work environment would leave me with no option but to give the fellow a warning and probably a mandatory training course on acceptable workplace behaviour, however imho the new guy has probably destroyed his credibility to the workforce and would be useless to the firm.
 
Of course I have reason to doubt the op's version of events; he's on the internet defending himself against someone who isn't here to tell his side of the story.
 
Participant said:
This is the OP's version of events. This was probably a) highly exaggerated and b) deserved. I know this thread was always going to attract loads of 'managers suck' sperg lords, but try to have some perspective.
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A manager who 'screams' at someone is completely inadequate at dealing with other human beings in a constructive way. Even raising your voice is largely inexcusable - a manager's job is to motivate subordinates, not vent their frustration in a manner that makes them feel better but poisons relations. It's childish and ultimately self-defeating (assuming their goal is to actually improve performance and not just to assert their authority by ******** on other people).

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Maybe in mickey mouse organisations. In proper work, the cream rises to the top. These people are smarter and better than the type of person that calls managers 'lick the bums', like a 17 year old call centre worker would.
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This isn't true of any large organisation. Management is a mix of individuals who know how to motivate teams (both collectively and individually) and cretins who just want to sit in on high-level meetings and have a nice job title. Good managers are as rare as good employees, if not rarer - the additional pay and kudos will often attract exactly the sort of person who has more ambition than talent.
 
Shouting at staff is bullying and isn't tolerated in the workplace. You need to take this to HR or higher if need be.

This guy sounds like an ass to me.

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Just seen you don't have a HR department, so you will have to take out a grievance. If that doesn't work, get in touch with ACAS. It will most likely end up at an employment tribunal if he doesn't stop it.
 
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Gregster said:
Shouting at staff is bullying and isn't tolerated in the workplace. You need to take this to HR or higher if need be.

This guy sounds like an ass to me.

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Just seen you don't have a HR department, so you will have to take out a grievance. If that doesn't work, get in touch with ACAS. It will most likely end up at an employment tribunal if he doesn't stop it.
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Assuming that everything is exactly how the OP reported it, and not embellished, exaggerated or interpreted in any way outside of the exact way it happened.

I'm not saying the OP is lying or making stuff up, what I am saying is it's worth highlighting that people don't always see things exactly the way they are when they're emotionally charged. For example "screaming", many people will interpret "screaming" to be very different things.

Additionally as Xordium put it, it could be something related to the OP is acting out, the manager has a legitimate gripe, but the way the manager is actually dealing with it is also an issue, as opposed to him having a problem with the OP's behavior.

These sort of situations are very rarely as one sided as is made out in the OP, and everyone in these situations are biased to themselves, which will naturally come out in how they relay incidents.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
"Mental illness" is an umbrella term for a myriad of mental disorders. I have not claimed that other mental disorders do not exist.

Now, how many eye-rolls would be appropriate in order to demonstrate my intellectual superiority? Do I need ten, or just one really big one?
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Congrats you do know there are brain function tests that show that people with ADD have different brain function.

While I'm sure you can appreciate that it is very hard to diagnose mental disorders given we know so little about the brain's functioning however given all the evidence from parents, teachers, the child's educational development, the connor's test we can come to the agreement that the child has problems and that they are not functioning within normal parameters.

ADD is the "label" given to it another label could be "gifted" however the school "institution" requires a very linear rigid behaviour almost robotic so it's quite easy to be outwith it's "norms" yet be a perfectly normal functioning human being.

Good luck OP it's not that uncommon to have to work with people like that especially in the public sector where it's harder to get rid of people.
 
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