Can you be fired for having ADHD if they knew you had it when you started work?

As others have said, there needs to sbe a disciplinary process before they can get rid of you as you have been tbere for that length of time. I think that's right anyway.
 
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platypus said:
In what world are you living in?

In organisations the world over, the people who play the game rise to the top. The people who cosy up to the right people, the people who deal behind other peoples backs, the people who are the exact opposite of being the cream. Management, especially middle tier management is stock full of incompetent people who are paid too much money for being in charge of people who actually know what they are doing, the 'talent' as you put it, and for the large part work better when not being bothered by someone who's done a management course.

Have you ever worked for an Enterprise?
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But in a proper company, you also have to have talent in addition to 'playing the game'.

Have you ever worked for a proper company?
 
Don't forget to mention the DDA to hr, that along with the simple word 'bully' will be enough to see your manager to back off and probably face a disciplinary
 
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But in a proper company, you also have to have talent in addition to 'playing the game'.
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I would never in a million years, have guessed that delegating and giving the odd copy + paste presentation that helps no one but the presenters ego and 'check box' would have been classed as "having talent". I need to re-evaluate my life.
 
What is a proper company - do they have to earn mega-bucks, have international respect, be visionary? Seems a very strange thing to say.
 
Xordium said:
What is a proper company - do they have to earn mega-bucks, have international respect, be visionary? Seems a very strange thing to say.
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One that doesn't promote people who lack genuine ability to manager level, of course.

Certainly looking around my company, you just don't get managers that aren't clever, incisive, commercially astute, experts in their fields, good at building important relationships with their piers, and just all round decent people.

I'm sorry that people work for companies where managers are promoted just because they schmooze enough with the right people.
 
Resident said:
It's real for the few actual sufferers. However it's bandied around by many as an excuse for lack of discipline through poor parenting.
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Wow! Someone has actually nailed it.

I've struggled with what I thought was ADHD since I was a child, but I never did anything about it as I wrote it off as an excuse and not a real condition. (As it turns out, I found out that I was actually diagnosed as a small child, but my Mom wouldn't medicate me)

It wasn't until after I was 30 that I finally went and got a diagnosis and it's absolutely changed my life for the better.
 
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One that doesn't promote people who lack genuine ability to manager level, of course.

Certainly looking around my company, you just don't get managers that aren't clever, incisive, commercially astute, experts in their fields, good at building important relationships with their piers, and just all round decent people.

I'm sorry that people work for companies where managers are promoted just because they schmooze enough with the right people.
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Do you work for a large company or small?
 
one intersting thing one of our mangers told us is that a manger is only considered effective for 3 years, after that he becomes part of the team and can no longer make the hard decisions/effective ones as hes too attached to the people and the "way things are" rather than looking for new and improved processes
 
Tefal said:
one intersting thing one of our mangers told us is that a manger is only considered effective for 3 years, after that he becomes part of the team and can no longer make the hard decisions/effective ones as hes too attached to the people and the "way things are" rather than looking for new and improved processes
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That is correct... Thats also why some people get "funny" when a new manager comes in and starts throwing his weight around.
 
Only one manager has ever raised his voice to me, I left the room and said he should schedule another meeting when he was prepared to discus the issue in an adult manner.
 
Also you taking any meds for it op? ritalin, desoxyn or adderall anything like that?

If not might be worth your while, I know people hate medicating but i've heard stories how adderall has changed peoples lives.
 
Participant said:
One that doesn't promote people who lack genuine ability to manager level, of course.

Certainly looking around my company, you just don't get managers that aren't clever, incisive, commercially astute, experts in their fields, good at building important relationships with their piers, and just all round decent people.

I'm sorry that people work for companies where managers are promoted just because they schmooze enough with the right people.
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Any large company have those problems to a larger or smaller degree - it is inevitable. The only companies that can keep a completely tight ship are small ones. Unless of course you are suggesting you work for a large company and know absolutely everyone to make such a decision. Or even that your decision is correct - maybe your standards are that mediocre that it ensures your limited criteria are met at your place however some of the other posters on here may see poor management practice and failure.
 
I think the problem that I regularly see on OcUK is that the overriding theme is "Managers, what do they know, ra ra rah" without a huge amount of thought behind it.
 
The company I work for is a global leader in it's field and has profit growth every year for 30 years+. Despite this success, there are still a fair few managers who have glaring weakesses - but then so do we all.

My boss is spineless when it comes to confrontational issues and prefers to just leave things alone.
Another boss is too hands on and makes mistakes when he hasn't worked hands on for years.
Others are too focused on their own small team and ignore the bigger picture too often and have to be reminded and it wastes time.

I consider myself to be 95% perfect in my job but I know I have weaknesses too. Mainly, having loads of great ideas but then not pushing them enough or trying hard enough to implement them. This is the thing picked up in my performance reviews but I just can't seem to change.

End of the day, whatever position you're in, someone will be seeing something bad about the way you work. But in a long lasting company, you're going to be sacked in you're not performing and helping drive the company forward.


My wife has just been pegged as soon to be in higher management position in her performance review and I too have plans in motion to further myself.
The really good employees/managers are those that recognise their own weakness(s) and negate them with the help and advice of others.


Nobody can deny, that even in good professnioal companies there are managers who do get promoted but are mostly useless.
I've seen many people come and go in all positions at my company who talked the talk, but when it came down to it could not perform. That's why they have 6 month probation perdiod. Some people are just amazing at getting through an interview, and just hope the company don't do regular performance reviews - or that they end up having a team of people who will just cover for their incompotence and won't stand up to them. And some will get into that position!

Most of the time though, they just end up going from job to job as companies don't seem to blacklist them for some reason.




Anyway...
You can't ever let someone shout at you in the workplace. Everything at work should be conducted in a professional and mature way. Disagreements between staff should be conducted in private, with the relevant manager, HR member if applicable.
 
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