where you watching a different race,other than webber outbreaking himself twice. It was a clear pass before the corner.Canadian Grand Prix 2011, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve - Race 7/19
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where you watching a different race,other than webber outbreaking himself twice. It was a clear pass before the corner.And continue to restrict dirty air,I still cant fathom the lack of press on how effective banning Double Diffuser is and that, the rules are so tight they arent going to replace. It has halved the following distance down from 1sec+ last year to 0.4-0.6secs this year.
That by far has had the biggest good impact this season.
It was a knee jerk reaction to the teams using Double Diffusers which they've banned anyway. It's just not needed, they can now follow closely as we have seen at every single race this season.
No you can't there was absolutely no defence against it.
No becuase it is an unfair and pointless system. Some tracks it hasn't worked.
Two zones made no difference to day, they where well and truly clear before the second zone, all the second zone did was aid catching to the car in front.
You can't compare DRS to turbos or anything else ever implemented in F1
Fixed, it does nothing to help racing at all, in fact it is a massive down side to racing and detracts from the sport.
If you are looking for entertainment rather than racing then yes it's animorovment. But that's not what any sport should be about.
It does nothing to negate dirty air, it does nothing to keep the cars closer over the lap, all it does is give an unfair advantage to the car behind.
As I said two zones made next to no difference today. Almost all clean drove round the other in the first zone. About the only one was massa at the finish. Is that racing? Having an unfair speed advantage, no skill and no way to defend.
which is what they should have done in 2013, ground effect & banning of winglets.
Every car might use it, but they can't use it, thus it's unfair,
It does. Not improve racing, it improves entertainment. There is nothing good about the overtakes. This Isn't touring cars, this is the supposedly the pinnacle of racing. Although I would say the lemans today showed f1 how to do it.
Or no DRS and over taking, it is almost cure by banning of double diffuser anyway. If they went ahead with ground effect and removed winglets they would have literally been able to travel touching each other.
Because it doesn't negate dirty air, it does nothing to solve the problem and as soon as it shuts they immediately fall back in the dirty air. Solve the problem, don't introduce an unfair device.
Some do hate DRS, some don't, at the end of the day 22 of them are on a very short PR leash. As well as most of them being a little out of f1 standards, just look at the calls saying it's indri able. Then look at Lewis, MSC, senna, mansel and other f1 drivers of the past who leaped half the field in a couple of laps.
Stupid comment, they all build to same rules, f1 is 70% car weighted and as it should be.
F1 is racing and you can get the spectacle without removing the racing. In fact fia already have solved the problem by 50% in one simple rule change.
It can't be argued either way. It doesn't matter if it's on all cars. Only one car can use it, the one behind.
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So you what time trailing, that is not racing. Dirty air is more or less solved this year anyway and can be further improved.
And this is the problem, people are happy to throw away the racing for entertainment, made worse bu the stewards investigations at every contact.
at 200 coming out of a corner, that's some exit speed. There has always been dirty air. Every time you punch something through air, you create dirty air. It's nothing new in f1 it's just since the mid 90s it's been getting worse and worse, till the last couple of years, where they have reduced it and with double diffuser ban, they halved it in one swoop.
No, it's still not racing or overtaking.