Canon EOS 7d Body - New - £699

Very good price on a not very good camera :P That said, this sort of price puts it in contention with people who were looking at 650d, 60D setups and in that arena the 7D is monstrously good haha.
 
7D is not a bad camera. It is just not as good as the one come out now or FF sensors or camera costing 2 or 3 times as much.

It will blow any camera at £700 out of the water with its AF and weather sealing.

It was a good camera 4 years ago, it is still a good camera today.
 
iamtheoneneo said:
dont you think your posts comes across as a little elitist? Its more than a perfectly good camera especially for that price. so its not FF big deal.
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I was joking.

In any case, the D7000 is around the same sort of price with a sensor that STILL embarrasses the brand new Canon crop bodies. I'm not too fussed about the fact that it's not full frame, it's that it's somehow still at the top of the Canon crop sensor line, and it's got such a pants sensor in it. Everything else on the camera is brilliant, but it just falls short because that sensor limits so much that it tries to be good at with the rest of the spec sheet. Good AF, good burst, good build, but you can't really shoot properly long lenses with it except in perfect light because even ISO 800 is pushing it.

It's a good camera, but particularly when positioned as a high end camera, the Canon 18MP sensor hasn't cut it for a long time/
 
And don't get me wrong, the fact that the D300 still hasn't got a proper update is equally bad, it's just that the entire Canon crop lineup has been held back on that now truly outdated sensor so there's no option for a good sensor until you go full frame, whereas the D300 is the exception to the rule in Nikon's lineup, and the 7D is just yet another outdated Canon crop camera.
 
Canon really hasn't changed their crop sensor performance since the 400D that was released in 2006. They bumped the resolution (but not massive, from 10mp to 18mp is about 34% linear resolution increase), but the quantum efficiency has completely stagnated for 7 years resulting in no net increase in DR or noise performance.

What is weird is Canon used to be the world leader until this point which everyone was trying to catch up to, then they totally stopped any advancement. Now you can my m43 sensors that happily outperform the latest top of the range canon crop camera, even compact P&S cameras are looking to overtake like the Sony RX-100! Bizzarre that they would just let their technological lead slip to such a state that they are so far behind.
 
Ksanti said:
And don't get me wrong, the fact that the D300 still hasn't got a proper update is equally bad, it's just that the entire Canon crop lineup has been held back on that now truly outdated sensor so there's no option for a good sensor until you go full frame, whereas the D300 is the exception to the rule in Nikon's lineup, and the 7D is just yet another outdated Canon crop camera.
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yeah, it is shocking that the Nikon D300 hasn't been updated in so long, and the D7000 gets updated before the D300. Some people from Nikon UK have more or less confirmed a D400 is on the horizon.

The Tsunami and then Thailand floods delayed Nikon products quite badly, the D800 was delayed by around a year apparently so I assume the D400 was at least as badly affected, but that still puts it as a year or so late.
 
Here we go again with the typical techno mumble jumbo of what something says on paper over just buying a camera and shooting with it to get the best images you can, which the 7D is perfectly capable of.
 
Nexus said:
Here we go again with the typical techno mumble jumbo of what something says on paper over just buying a camera and shooting with it to get the best images you can, which the 7D is perfectly capable of.
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So is an iPhone and a disposable film camera, so what?
 
Well he doesn't have to read it let alone post in the thread. Other people might find the state of the camera industry and technology interesting!
 
Well, I am staying out of this, it'll only end up one way.

Going to process some photos instead when I get home, that's what I like to do. You guys have fun.
 
Raymond Lin said:
He means another snooze fest on the same thing that has been talked about for the last year.

Zzzzzzz
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Start a thread you like or add to one already that you like, perhaps you have some more NY pictures?

It's like an environmentalist complaining to Sky about Topgear repeats on Dave being a snooze fest, when they could just be watching the Eden channel instead of whining.
 
My point is that certain Nikon enthusiasts constantly have to chime in with why Canon cameras are terrible and why you should be buying something else, usually a Nikon, everytime a thread like this pops up.
 
Samples look ok if not a little processed. Any chance of a Raw of the bat, as any cam is capable if you post thumbnails.
Also if the bat is over exposed, then it's not really a ISO6400 sample.
 
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