Capital One Cup - Fourth Round 29/30 October & 6 November *** Spoilers ***

shame that but meh its only the crapital cup.

But it's possibly your best chance of winning a trophy, given your relatively poor squad depth (quality wise). I don't think you've got the squad to win the league, for example (as demonstrated today).

If Arsenal start to drop off, which at this point is quite possible, then you'll be wishing you were still in it.
 
But it's possibly your best chance of winning a trophy, given your relatively poor squad depth (quality wise). I don't think you've got the squad to win the league, for example (as demonstrated today).

If Arsenal start to drop off, which at this point is quite possible, then you'll be wishing you were still in it.

Not really, ive never given much respect for the league cup in all honesty so going out isnt a huge deal for me.

Depth wise we are thin but we are managing to do well enough, hopefully come Jan we will strengthen some more. But as long as we beat Chelsea, City and you lot when it counts then ill be happy enough.
 
dat face :)

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Yup:

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Ozil gave him his shirt and a hug.

So... Jose poaching Ozil already? :p Not that I would mind or anything! :D

On a a serious note though, I wish Mourinho could find a way to play Mata in the first 11. He shows such such quality every time he's on the pitch, and deserves so much more than league cup games and the occasional spell warming the bench. I know Chelsea aren't short of creative midfielders but Mata seems to be the best, and most consistent, of the the bunch. Yet he barely sees any premier league game time.
 
A trophy is a trophy and Arsenal can't afford not to win any type of silverware.

I have to agree. We havent won anything for far to long. Although I agree with wenger about squad rotation, our squad is still too thin, to the point where Bendtner needs to play up front in these games!! Hopefully in the next window we invest again. But well done chelsea, played well and closed our Mid down.
 
Chelsea's second string are just better than Arsenals. We had Bendtner and Ryo playing and they have £30 million bench warmers playing. We still have a few injuries in midfield. Once all are fit (if) then it would be a different proposition and I think we will be competitive in the league games.
 
A trophy is a trophy and Arsenal can't afford not to win any type of silverware.

Completely agree. Who gives a **** which trophy it is, we need to win something soon, its been 8 ****ing years!

Poor poor performance from us last night. No creativity or imagination in the final third. Considering our apparent lack of squad depth I thought we put out a very solid team last night which should have at least tested chelsea. Just so poor.

That's the second game in a row now where we've looked clueless up front. Its getting rather worrying. Oh well, cue our annual November implosion :p
 
How did Zaha play last night? Read several reports and they all say "Zaha made his first appearance", nothing more.

I really hope he knows how to treat a lady (Lauren Moyes).
 
Isn't that the guy that several Arsenal fans have been saying Wenger should play over the last few seasons :confused:

A couple of seasons ago he had a loan spell at Bolton and looked promising, but then he had a lot of injuries since then, and it seems to have affected him badly.
 
Plus, he'll never get much match time this season so he's always going to be rusty when called upon. He needs to play regularly. You can't expect him to hardly play all season and then be called upon to start against Chelsea and perform. He needs to go out on loan.
 
I have to agree. We havent won anything for far to long. Although I agree with wenger about squad rotation, our squad is still too thin, to the point where Bendtner needs to play up front in these games!! Hopefully in the next window we invest again. But well done chelsea, played well and closed our Mid down.

No, Wenger didn't NEED to play Bendtner upfront in this game, he CHOSE to. He CHOSE to play GIroud against a woeful Norwich side and an even more woeful Palace side when he could have rested Giroud for the "easy" games and played him against Chelsea. Wenger is basically the only manager alive today who would choose the Chelsea game to rest his top players and not the two ridiculously easy games out of the previous three games knowing full well this game was coming up. But as it goes, Wenger is a moron. Since 04, we've only not had a side capable of winning a league title for 3, maybe 4 of those seasons, still a side that could do better than 4th and still a side that could win other cups though.

Wenger's utter mismanagement of the squad during this entire period is the reason we fail to win big games and haven't won a single cup.

Hell look at the carling cup final, we finally got to another final and Wenger played an injury plagued through the season Cesc against a **** Stoke the game before the final. No other manager would have risked Cesc in that game and instead given him the extra days and training and played him in the final. Most managers wouldn't have risked him if that was playing against Utd/Chelsea/Liverpool, let alone an overly physical Stoke side, the final was the far far far more important game.

Only playing for part of a game isn't really being rested either, it's less bad but you still build up to the game the same way, train less usually the day and day before a match, warm up before the game, during the game and then risk injury during the game.

No one expects ANY players to be at their best without any match time, no one expects players to be at their best against the best teams in the league. Ronaldo, Messi, Giroud, Wilshere, it doesn't really matter who, they'll score more or play better against Norwich than CHelsea 99/100 times. So why play an unfit, out of form Bendtner in this game rather than give him a chance against Norwich, and play Giroud against Norwich, and not Chelsea?

AS with Ryo, any player not playing almost at all will not be at their best, it's as simple as that. As per usual Wenger buys someone shows them the bench(if lucky) for a few years, then throws them in against incredibly good opposition with zero form, no match fitness. Yet another player he threw to the wolves last night. As above, Norwich/Palace would be great games to give Ryo a chance to build up some fitness/form, Chelsea is a truly ridiculous game to give him a chance and expect him to perform. Either way it was still Ramsey/Rosicky/Cazorla who were utterly useless yesterday and had most of the ball.
 
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No, Wenger didn't NEED to play Bendtner upfront in this game, he CHOSE to. He CHOSE to play GIroud against a woeful Norwich side and an even more woeful Palace side when he could have rested Giroud for the "easy" games and played him against Chelsea. Wenger is basically the only manager alive today who would choose the Chelsea game to rest his top players and not the two ridiculously easy games out of the previous three games knowing full well this game was coming up. But as it goes, Wenger is a moron. Since 04, we've only not had a side capable of winning a league title for 3, maybe 4 of those seasons, still a side that could do better than 4th and still a side that could win other cups though.

Wenger's utter mismanagement of the squad during this entire period is the reason we fail to win big games and haven't won a single cup.

Hell look at the carling cup final, we finally got to another final and Wenger played an injury plagued through the season Cesc against a **** Stoke the game before the final. No other manager would have risked Cesc in that game and instead given him the extra days and training and played him in the final. Most managers wouldn't have risked him if that was playing against Utd/Chelsea/Liverpool, let alone an overly physical Stoke side, the final was the far far far more important game.

Only playing for part of a game isn't really being rested either, it's less bad but you still build up to the game the same way, train less usually the day and day before a match, warm up before the game, during the game and then risk injury during the game.

No one expects ANY players to be at their best without any match time, no one expects players to be at their best against the best teams in the league. Ronaldo, Messi, Giroud, Wilshere, it doesn't really matter who, they'll score more or play better against Norwich than CHelsea 99/100 times. So why play an unfit, out of form Bendtner in this game rather than give him a chance against Norwich, and play Giroud against Norwich, and not Chelsea?

AS with Ryo, any player not playing almost at all will not be at their best, it's as simple as that. As per usual Wenger buys someone shows them the bench(if lucky) for a few years, then throws them in against incredibly good opposition with zero form, no match fitness. Yet another player he threw to the wolves last night. As above, Norwich/Palace would be great games to give Ryo a chance to build up some fitness/form, Chelsea is a truly ridiculous game to give him a chance and expect him to perform. Either way it was still Ramsey/Rosicky/Cazorla who were utterly useless yesterday and had most of the ball.

Yes he CHOOSE to play Bendtner, but had we had more strength in dept IE a player of better cablibre then Bendtner who didnt try to leave us last term it would have been better. Fair enough we maybe still wouldnt have won but who knows. Yes, our team I believe did not play as well, and against stronger opposition such as chelsea it showed we need stronger players in depth.
 
A trophy is a trophy and Arsenal can't afford not to win any type of silverware.

I agree as well, would have been nice if we had done over Chelsea but squad wise we arent as strong as Chelsea so i wasnt at all surprised when i saw the score. The first goal was a joke, Jenks should have known better...the second goal from Mata was decent.

Oh well still the FA Cup to go for along with the CL but i cant see us lasting very long in the CL so hopefully by the time the FA Cup rolls around, we will have strengthened the team.
 
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