I don't think the situation had an effect, since they keep playing that rubbish.
Capital One Cup Quarter-Final 11/12/19 December *** Spoilers ***
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I don't think the situation had an effect, since they keep playing that rubbish.
Who cares about the capital cup. Players don't give a toss neither do the fans. The club is in a no win situstion: win the thing and everyone goes 'meh', lose to anyone and it is the end of the world.
It is the same with Spurs and the Europa. The first team look utter tosh in it and the performances are dreadful. The sooner we go out of that crappy cup the better and I won't be judging the side/manager on anything to do with it. The only real criticism is the exhaustion it causes for the weekend. AVB should avoid that.
It is the same with Spurs and the Europa. The first team look utter tosh in it and the performances are dreadful. The sooner we go out of that crappy cup the better and I won't be judging the side/manager on anything to do with it. The only real criticism is the exhaustion it causes for the weekend. AVB should avoid that.
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I still wish we were in it (after the way we played against Chelsea we deserve to be in as well)
Exactly, football clubs exist to win trophys, I don't understand this 'its only the league cup' marlarky. A trophy is something banked, something players can look back on in the future and admire.
Maybe because some teams/managers have been chasing mediocrity for so long some the fans of said teams have forgotton the joy of a cup final experiance? Don't worry though, soon 7th place will be like wining a trophy for you..
It is not a trophy for any club in the top 8 of the PL to be proud of. It is treated as second class by most clubs.
The argument that it is a trophy could be applied to something like the Emirates cup. The worth of anything is determined by a peer group. If the top clubs don't want it, neither should/would Arsenal. The players know this as do fans. A top team might have to play another top team's first team once or twice otherwise they can expect to be playing reserves/u21s en route to lifting the cup. Where is the glory in beating second rate?
The argument that it is a trophy could be applied to something like the Emirates cup. The worth of anything is determined by a peer group. If the top clubs don't want it, neither should/would Arsenal. The players know this as do fans. A top team might have to play another top team's first team once or twice otherwise they can expect to be playing reserves/u21s en route to lifting the cup. Where is the glory in beating second rate?
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If you don't laugh at the KO, you aren't human
Cool i will check that out later
Well said, a trophy is a trophy. winning the carling cup is better then winning nothing at all.
Except arsenal are no longer a big club world class club anymore.So expectations need to be lowered and that includes trying to win the carling cup.
We now take winning the carling cup and finishing 4th as an achievement. That is not what a big club aims to be.
A Big club challenges for top honours, Leagues, Champions leagues etc.
That is what a top club goes for. Arsenal are no longer a top side anymore
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how...
A Spurs fan that doesn't want to play in leave alone win a Europa Cup or the Capital cup!. Honestly which cup do you want to win and how many times have you won it before and what was the last time you won it?
As a Liverpool fan i would prefer wining or reaching the final of the Europa cup than playing in the champions league and we fail to go passed the group stages in Man City style.
The guy has no awareness...thats how he completely and utterly missed that perfect chance
If Wenger sees that and still thinks that utter douchebag should be on the field then as i said before the pair of them need to be taken out back and shot repeatedly.
Dont know what it is but sometimes i think he just switches off and doesnt pay any attention to whats going on. Hes no good on the wing and hes no good through the middle.
Ramsey is another player who shouldnt have been on the field..time and time i saw him give the ball away too easily. Since his injury, he hasnt been anywhere near as good.
That sort of miss last night is just truly embarrassing but yet Wenger still plays him...truly mindboggling
Thats why i think, no i know Wenger has completely lost his marbles. Such utterly bizarre comments he made last night.Used to be a time when it was a pleasure watching Arsenal play, now its infuriating to watch this team play. Theres no flow to our play anymore.
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I think Welbeck might have managed that one.
Listen even me, a lazy unfit 40 yr old could have nailed that ball in the back of the net
...pretty sure even my 9 yr old nephew would have nailed that ball as well.Embarrassing that we have someone like him in our squad...hes not even good enough to play for the reserves
On top of that not one of our wide players seem able to cross the ball (apart from Podolski and Walcott). I play on saturdays, last week got 1 chance to cross the ball and stuck it right on the strikers forehead. I don't understand how these guys who practice day in day out are worse than me at crossing. They seem incapable of putting the ball anywhere in front of the goal where the keeper can't get it.
Right Cliffy you can play on the wing for Arsenal
Seriously though that was the most depressing thing about last night, the fact that not one of our players could get a decent cross in even on the corners.
Also depressing was that it took us till the 70th min before we actually had a shot on target
