Car died need a new one
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The Mazda 3 MPS will be along shortly and i believe they were looking at something around £15K for that on release. If i was wanting a new sporty Mazda 3, i'd probably hold off for that.
http://www.mazda.co.uk/Showroom/ComingSoon/Mazda3MPS/
http://www.mazda.co.uk/Showroom/ComingSoon/Mazda3MPS/
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I havent bought it yet and haven't 100% decided on it, especially if they dont drop the price to well under 15k. All the second hand ones i found which were blue (don't like the other colours) cost around 12.5k - 13.5k too. A new one for 14.5 doesn't look so bad then, plus the fact im in kind of a rush and can't be travelling all over the country for one kind of limits me.
I think the MPS will start a fair bit higher than 15k.
I think the MPS will start a fair bit higher than 15k.
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[TW]Fox said:
erm.... mazda's relyability index, based on the number of claims made against warentee direct, is actually better than either bmw or audi (albeit by a few points in the case of bmw, but the point still stands)
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Siliconslave said:
What has reliability got to do with build quality? I'm talking about condition and wear on interiors etc..?
Thats the thing with the Japanese - they focused on reliability instead of build quality, so you get cars which rarely ever go wrong, but are cheap, plastic and tinny inside. Although I must say they've seriously improved of late.
have to say i dont see that you need to spend nearly 15k for a new car compared to a nearly new and save a few k ?
your requirements mean you have a ton of choices......although i'm not sure talking of a 0-60 of 9 seconds equates to decent
How many miles per year do you estimate this car will be doing ?
I'd certainly not buy new again - bought a new Scooby Turbo in 2000 and dont wanna lose so much again. Was more than happy to save 5k+ on a 5 month old STi with under 3k miles a while ago.....
Still not entirely sure what you want Cliffy.....seems a little confusion, maybe due to your wifes influence given a couple of your comments ? Is she going to be driving it much ?
I agree a new car soon seems to lose its 'newness', the 2 yearly plate changes accelerating this feeling. I've a new company car, A3 Sportback. Only 4 months old but does not feel new and get stuff chucked into cos its a car and its there to carry us and our stuff ! (i'd certainly not have wanted to pay for it privately at 24k !)
your requirements mean you have a ton of choices......although i'm not sure talking of a 0-60 of 9 seconds equates to decent
How many miles per year do you estimate this car will be doing ?
I'd certainly not buy new again - bought a new Scooby Turbo in 2000 and dont wanna lose so much again. Was more than happy to save 5k+ on a 5 month old STi with under 3k miles a while ago.....
Still not entirely sure what you want Cliffy.....seems a little confusion, maybe due to your wifes influence given a couple of your comments ? Is she going to be driving it much ?
I agree a new car soon seems to lose its 'newness', the 2 yearly plate changes accelerating this feeling. I've a new company car, A3 Sportback. Only 4 months old but does not feel new and get stuff chucked into cos its a car and its there to carry us and our stuff ! (i'd certainly not have wanted to pay for it privately at 24k !)
[TW]Fox said:
My old car has a knackered head gasket and would have been scrapped so essentially worthless
. Pressure is all messed up so the radiator went shortly followed by a coolant pipe. I'd already relpaced the radiator and I'm taping up the split pipes and hoping it will last the distance.
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saitrix said:
now there is asuggestion, just about to suggest that, far nicer than a 3 sport IMO
saitrix said:
I got a quote on a cupra r which is a similar group and it costs me around 60 quid a month extra
.D4VE said:
Recent stuff, yea. But sit in a Pre 2002 Accord, or 95-01 Civic, or an FTO, or infact any Jap car designed and introduced more than 3-4 years ago. Cheap, nasty plastic everywhere - becuase all their effort went into exceptional reliability rather than perceptable quality.
The Germans build cars which feel like they will last for ever but probably wont, the Japanese build cars which WILL last for ever, but don't neccesarily feel like they will.
Not at all, the Germans are way ahead in terms of quality - but unfortunately, the Japanese are way ahead in terms of of reliability. Buy two cars - a BMW and a Honda, and over the space of 10 years the Honda will begin to feel cheap, tacky, etc etc, but is unlikely to ever break down. Yet the BMW will feel strong, well built for many years after purchase, BUT will likely throw you some expensive repair bills along the way.
I guess it's a case of priorities.
Our FTO is a perfect example - it is an exceptionally reliable car. But is it a quality, well built car? Of course it isnt, you shut the boot and it goes CLANG, the plastics inside are terrible, etc etc. But it's not once broken down. I'm sure a BMW 328i of the same age will still feel tight, the doors will close with a re-assuring thump and the interior, although dated, will still feel good. But I'd wager it's had a lot more repair bills.
Depends which is more important to you
CliffyG said:I got a quote on a cupra r which is a similar group and it costs me around 60 quid a month extra
Oh no, a whole £60 a month?
Seriously - thats much less than the monthly cost of the first years depreciation on a new Mazda3.
Which I calculate to be approximately £333 a month.
CliffyG said:I got a quote on a cupra r which is a similar group and it costs me around 60 quid a month extra
Thats a completely different car. Go do insurance quotes for the vRS. Different cars can give such different quotes. First of all the Cupra R isn't a Skoda which should help with insurance quotes on the vRS.