Carrick Out?

[shipinabottle]

Ten Hag came to the club with a history of being a disciplinarian.

We oughta bear in mind, ETH was human too and as such will be influenced by the environment as much as he can influence it. 'You are what you eat'. We see it with good players who come, perform well then sink into the same problems.

For me, ETH and Amorim were not the problems. ETH unfortunately was chomped up by the original disney land nonsense approach from the Arnold/Woodward ilk and the players of this era and what that brought. Amorim should have been stuck by, he was making his way through as being a disciplinarian and was getting rid of some of the chuff, like Rashford and Maguire. Bruno, Dalot and Shaw (who subvertly are crippling the team) would be phased out and we'd have had a healthier platform to go from with players who have had a consistent authoritarian and tactician from the start.

Instead we buckled again, and even went for the Fergie hangover beer 'Hair of the dog United DNA' with Carrick rather than weathering the discomfort and staying the course to sobriety.

Change is rarely fast though, so we'll keep doing cycles of the same ****, 1 step forward, 0.75 steps back

 

[fez]

Change is rarely fast though, so we'll keep doing cycles of the same ****, 1 step forward, 0.75 steps back

To be fair, if we did that we would at least have made progress over the past 12+ years

 

[shipinabottle]

To be fair, if we did that we would at least have made progress over the past 12+ years

Hahaha bud, i'm trying my hardest to remain positive... I do actually think Ratcliffe, Berrada and Wilcox are a step in the right direction and are moving the squad forward. But like ETH they will be eaten up by environment too and you can see that with the recruitment of Carrick. No way do you swing from Amorim to Carrick without there being systemic pressure which is always 'right the ship back to safe land aka Fergie town'... (this is the point they need to become self-aware about, honestly, the club needs a therapist... i'm here if ya reading Omar )

Like the recruitment is good. Amorim was a good choice. They're being sensible with finances unlike the last lot and giving out ridiculous contracts to disneyland.

This is such a huge ship to steer, it will take time, and errors and learning. And the problem is the scale of drop when you've been 'THAT' succesful is that everything by comparison seems and feels less... Like i say, it's a Fergie hangover. Liverpools took 3 decades.

 

[Robbo]

The Roma game will be um, interesting. They have a great manager and James Horncastle was saying they're currently in their best run of form in modern history...

Good thing we don't have any problems defensively. Carrick is probably dreading it, and Villa afterwards!

 

[fez]

The Roma game will be um, interesting. They have a great manager and James Horncastle was saying they're currently in their best run of form in modern history...

Lets hope their best run of form in modern history is like our run of form last season. Built on sand and water.

Good thing we don't have any problems defensively. Carrick is probably dreading it, and Villa afterwards!

I think you will find that he "can't wait"

 

[Converge]

And that Sesko ‘only has a little niggle’.

 

[bingham67]

Who thinking it will be the reverse tomorrow

 

[fez]

Nah, got a good feeling about tomorrow. Think we will win. Club will see this as proof of their gambit paying off. Call off the search.

 

[Martynt74]

Who thinking it will be the reverse tomorrow

Ah the one year I had a season ticket. Such a good game that. 8 goals and every one was class.

 

[bingham67]

Carrick scored two aswell