It's not really the churches fault that legal clause is still in the deeds.
Well for one they could petition to get it removed. And it is most certainly their fault if they then exercise their right to use the clause.
It's not really the churches fault that legal clause is still in the deeds.
If I was forced to then yes. However a museum I would be far more likely to contribute to, either through donation or visiting & paying an entrance fee, as (depending on what it was a museum for) I would actually see some value in it.
It's not the fact it's a church that bothers me, it's the fact I've got no choice about supporting them, however I can't think of any other case (other than royalty, as pointed out earlier) who would get such special treatment.
Surely the fact that the church has to resort these unethical methods of fundraising shows that their product is no longer relevant? If it was, then their customers would provide adequate funding. Their business model simply doesn't work anymore and so they should either modernise or disappear.
It isn't a case of the church resorting to unethical methods of fundraising. Stop being such a bloody drama queen.
Give us money or we'll take you to court and potentially bankrupt you.
Sure sounds unethical to me!
Give us money or we'll take you to court and potentially bankrupt you.
Sure sounds unethical to me!
You're being unnecessarily facetious and clearly have no desire to actually have a talk about this. Enjoy.
You appear to be missing the contract issue. The actual position is 'Honour the contract you agreed to when you took ownership of the land, or we will get the court to enforce it'.
You appear to be missing the contract issue. The actual position is 'Honour the contract you agreed to when you took ownership of the land, or we will get the court to enforce it'.
deed covenants are common, and can give you a whole variety of responsibilities and potential costs, it is why getting them checked professionally is so important.PHP:
Actually it is more "Honour the contract that was agreed many hundreds of years ago that isn't mentioned on your deeds and you knew nothing about. Oh it possibly has unlimited liability."
Which seems a tad unfair don't you think?
You appear to be missing the contract issue. The actual position is 'Honour the contract you agreed to when you took ownership of the land, or we will get the court to enforce it'.
That situation hasn't arisen on any property bought after 2003, and this thread was started regarding a known liability...PHP:
We were advised to buy it. Tbh I think more a scam from insurance companies/conveyancers. There's no way the church would ask for money, even if they do have the right to do so. The law wood be changed to stop them if they had the nerve to try.
We were advised to buy it. Tbh I think more a scam from insurance companies/conveyancers. There's no way the church would ask for money, even if they do have the right to do so. The law wood be changed to stop them if they had the nerve to try.
Have you read the wiki page linked in the thread?
Had a letter from the solicitor handling our conveyancing this morning. Apparently the property we're in the process of buying is potentially liable for chancel repair costs - will cost us £150 to find out for sure, or £45 for 25 years insurance. Now obviously the insurance is a no brainer, but honestly, what the hell gives the church the right to demand payments from people who have absolutely no affiliation with them, and in fact vehemently disagree with their unethical practices.
I was previously happy to leave religion to it's own devices, thinking it similar to the eccentric but essentially harmless loony uncle that everyone has, but it's becoming evident that there's a far more malevolent side to it. Dirty thieving scum!
Tempted to use the argument that it's illegal to provide money to criminal organisations (e.g. paedophile rings), but can't help but think it's probably not worth the effort!
Just a rant really, but has anyone else experienced this, and how do they feel about it/how did you deal with it?
It isn't a case of the church resorting to unethical methods of fundraising. Stop being such a bloody drama queen.