Chatgpt - Seriously good potential (or just some Internet fun)

jaybee said:
It does concern me slightly as someone in a technical IT career, that some of the skills in writing code/script may carry less weight in the future. I always felt safe in the knowledge that as someone technical who made the wheels keep turning on the backend, I would stand the test of time in IT over people in management roles that are more "people" skills. Perhaps these kind of jobs will end up being safer in the long run as we "outsource" more to AI and bot generated code.
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People in the technical side of IT have nothing to worry about, our skills are very easily transferrable. Just my sheer fascination with AI alone has me learning deeply about prompt engineering. As you can see the results in the certain thread today :cry:;) If using such tech can troll a troller so hard and fast he had to abandon his idiotic thread then AI is alright by me!
 
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easily transferable to what - it was ironic ? street cleaning, or road repair like Arnie.

similar to the use of AI to augment/replace a doctors diagnosic skills, same is true for consultant IT expertise.

I still don't get what hardware technology jump will provide the efficient compute resources to implement many AI systems though.
 
jaybee said:
It does concern me slightly as someone in a technical IT career, that some of the skills in writing code/script may carry less weight in the future. I always felt safe in the knowledge that as someone technical who made the wheels keep turning on the backend, I would stand the test of time in IT over people in management roles that are more "people" skills. Perhaps these kind of jobs will end up being safer in the long run as we "outsource" more to AI and bot generated code.
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People skills will definitely be more important than coding, but also manual skills. Plumbers and electricians, fruit pickers, manual labours etc have a reasonable future because robotics is a long way behind AI and will be slow to catch up because the pace of mechanics, optics, electronics etc. is much slower than silicon & software. And even as progress is made, the cost of the complex hardware is always going to be difficult to make viable. Humans have amazingly dexterous hands that can hold all kinds of tools, contort our bodies every which way, and all controlled by a very powerful brain with superb sensing abilities. For the next few decades robots will remain restricted too dangerous, dirty, difficult domains and where it is impossible for humans - drone, under watch vehicles, going inside nuclear reactors etc.


Coding isn't imminently doomed, but low quality programmers will be pushed out as simply regurgitating loads of basic code hacked together form stackoverflow and forced to work through dumb brute force will be replaced by AI. What is liked needed is more experienced people that can guide the automated tools, design or at least specify architectures. This will require coders to keep up with the latest technology.
 
Its great for some things. You put into in and get it to produce a document based on that. Or write some instructions. But if you ask it to look something up or explain something complex it often gets things wrong. There is a lot of incorrect information on the internet and that is it's source, you can't trust it.

I get it to write the sort of boring documents mediocre managers like. Takes 5 seconds instead of hours and they are non the wiser.
 
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Jobs aren't in danger just yet, you still need to proof read and test code that the AI has written to make sure it works, that still needs your skills, in the short term all that will happen is productivity will sky rocket, where you'll be producing 2x or even 3x the work in the same time with less stress because of your AI assistant

It's the long term where jobs become more precarious as the AI advances to a point where it can literally think for itself and test itself to be right 100% of the time, then that's when maybe we're not needed as much, especially when the AI advances robotics out of a desire to be more efficient
 
jpaul said:
easily transferable to what - it was ironic ? street cleaning, or road repair like Arnie.

similar to the use of AI to augment/replace a doctors diagnosic skills, same is true for consultant IT expertise.

I still don't get what hardware technology jump will provide the efficient compute resources to implement many AI systems though.
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It's training the models that is the computationally expensive part. Running them is comparatively trivial.
 
mid_gen said:
It's training the models that is the computationally expensive part. Running them is comparatively trivial.
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if the model is continually learning then it needs ongoing compute resources (which is what I inferred from the samsung chatgpt example I posted, for example)
yes if it is like tesla self drive which won't be improving itself (real time in your car) based on near misses then yes resources are reduced,
I thought deep mind chess AI is another example of continuously learning architecture
 
jpaul said:
if the model is continually learning then it needs ongoing compute resources (which is what I inferred from the samsung chatgpt example I posted, for example)
yes if it is like tesla self drive which won't be improving itself (real time in your car) based on near misses then yes resources are reduced,
I thought deep mind chess AI is another example of continuously learning architecture
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I was also thinking this. Real AI is always learning/altering itself? Everthing else is just complex pre built algorithms?
 
jpaul said:
if the model is continually learning then it needs ongoing compute resources (which is what I inferred from the samsung chatgpt example I posted, for example)
yes if it is like tesla self drive which won't be improving itself (real time in your car) based on near misses then yes resources are reduced,
I thought deep mind chess AI is another example of continuously learning architecture
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The problem is the data set for ChatGPT is out of date (Sept 2021) and doesn't have access to the internet so it's learned all it can already.
 
D.P. said:
People skills will definitely be more important than coding, but also manual skills. Plumbers and electricians, fruit pickers, manual labours etc have a reasonable future because robotics is a long way behind AI and will be slow to catch up because the pace of mechanics, optics, electronics etc. is much slower than silicon & software. And even as progress is made, the cost of the complex hardware is always going to be difficult to make viable. Humans have amazingly dexterous hands that can hold all kinds of tools, contort our bodies every which way, and all controlled by a very powerful brain with superb sensing abilities. For the next few decades robots will remain restricted too dangerous, dirty, difficult domains and where it is impossible for humans - drone, under watch vehicles, going inside nuclear reactors etc.


Coding isn't imminently doomed, but low quality programmers will be pushed out as simply regurgitating loads of basic code hacked together form stackoverflow and forced to work through dumb brute force will be replaced by AI. What is liked needed is more experienced people that can guide the automated tools, design or at least specify architectures. This will require coders to keep up with the latest technology.
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Completely agree. It's funny... when I went to school you used to get mocked by people for doing the brick laying courses or the labour type routes. "If you carry on bunking off school like that you'll end up just a plumber or carpenter or electrician. Is that what you want?" < Those types of conversations with teachers and parents etc.

Today though these roles are not only safe, but in demand where they have to turn work away and earn seemingly very well based on what lifestyles I see some traders living. Even my son at school is talking of electrician/carpenter as like's doing things with his hands yet he's very bright and all the teachers are yet still harping on about not dropping a language because uni's still like it and he's "obviously going to take A levels with his current levels". I mean yeah, he could do 2 more years studying academic subjects and pass them, but then would be 2 years behind someone that went straight into an apprenticeship course at 16. Difficult to guide them.

I know I would not advise anyone at a young age now to push towards an IT career. The way things are going there is just less and less requirement for IT resource globally with the shift to cloud, automation and off the shelf products and SAS offerings.

With chatGPT, a lot of companies will block access to it anyway. Ours already has. Standard. So it's in a sense a bit silly, as you can work offline at home and use it but not on the corporate network.
 
I was impressed with it being able to program a flappy birds type of game.

It might be good for gaming in the future because though games programming as become more easily accessible the quality as gone down. But something like this might bring up the quality again.
 
Does anyone else find that getting these things to generate random data is like pulling teeth?
I asked ChatGPT and also BingChat the same question

this is a json object for a person

{ new Guid("0011f8b8-2ec0-4543-a36e-98b8a494fcf7"), new DateTime(2022, 7, 19, 0, 37, 26, 834, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(3175), "Hellen Wilderman", new DateTime(2023, 2, 11, 14, 38, 54, 371, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(3181), "Corine Boyle", "Chief", "2997232809403", 525.39m, "Chief Implementation Architect", "GB", "web services" },

can you generate 10 more like this but with random data

I also told it to remove formatting and display each person on a new line.

every time it produced about 5 good ones then it looked like it got bored and started kicking out rubbish and stopped.
 
slight brain fart, should have said c# objects not json.
but even then it just generated the following then stopped.

{new Guid("6f4d6a4b-66bf-4a2a-9bae-38d8c7e3e3f2"), new DateTime(2022, 8, 10, 9, 20, 44, 150, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(2796), "Barrett Williams", new DateTime(2023, 3, 7, 16, 18, 27, 682, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(173), "Tamra Collins", "Manager", "868740162222", 630.21m, "Manager of Operations", "US", "logistics"}

{new Guid("8c7b9b15-9f9a-4d25-a8c3-2d1af0c18de6"), new DateTime(2022, 9, 6, 15, 10, 57, 858, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(7683), "Joey Henderson", new DateTime(2023, 2, 18, 7, 43, 45, 14, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(969), "Marty Adams", "Coordinator", "961776006898", 256.85m, "Coordinator of Marketing", "CA", "advertising"}

{new Guid("00a9f868-c5c5-491d-8735-d5db7b3d3dc8"), new DateTime(2022, 10, 3, 3, 57, 19, 945, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(4021), "Ava Hernandez", new DateTime(2023, 4, 23, 20, 4, 2, 22, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(4054), "Tomas Cooper", "Director", "137163369675", 987.56m, "Director of Finance", "MX", "accounting"}

{new Guid("cc8e994c-f2ed-43b5-9aa5-5d72d5a5c551"), new DateTime(2022, 11, 23, 18, 13, 47, 323, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(3445), "Oliver Wright", new DateTime(2023, 7, 19, 1, 50, 20, 313, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(3907), "Luisa Black", "Supervisor", "166758936364", 386.29m, "Supervisor of Customer Service", "GB", "customer service"}

{new Guid("99bc6970-b0d3-4e1b-aacb-d11a47c2a181"), new DateTime(2022, 12, 15, 6, 59, 8, 572, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(1613), "Elijah Davis", new DateTime(2023, 6, 28, 18, 17, 41, 195, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(6444), "Nina Tucker", "Specialist", "180518740844", 149.87m, "Specialist in Research and Development", "AU", "technology"}

{new Guid("a756b3ea-8e2c-4421-a317-020e797e186d"), new DateTime(2023, 1, 12, 12, 2, 32, 77, DateTimeKind.Local).AddTicks(3868), "Levi Green", new DateTime(202
 
I have asked it a few 'general' customer questions we get plus some hard ones...this is going to help a lot when it comes to explaining things. Scary but wow.
 
Anyone use the V4 yet and comment on what it does better?

We've go a corporate license for V4 and I've not had time to look at the new features.
 
An AI created song by the AI created voices of Drake and The Weeknd has been pulled off steaming services:

www.bbc.co.uk

Drake and The Weeknd AI song pulled from Spotify and Apple

The song, which cloned the stars' voices, is removed from streaming platforms after a copyright claim.
www.bbc.co.uk

Considering this tech is in its real infancy it feels like it’s opening up a total Pandoras box when it comes to the arts (amongst everything else!) and the current laws to protect intellectual property aren’t ready for it.
 
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