Cheap 350z’s

Cyber-Mav · 6 Sep 2006 at 23:22

my brother recently bought a subaru wrx 225bhp 54plate. its 0-60 is 5.7s and it deffo seems to be quicker than my mates m3 evolution which is 3.2ltr 320bhp. i think its because of the turbo it gives the engine more torque. then again i think its the 4 wheel drive gripping the road a lot more off the mark. but going from 60-120 the m3 evo seems to be more able.

Clarkey · 6 Sep 2006 at 23:23

Rotty said:
was the 300z called the same ? do you and your dad have a 300z each ( your dad had a white one iirc ) ?

no, my father died

so the white one is mine now, it was always my toy, but now its in my name. And yes, the 300 was also a Fairlady Z, as were all of the Z cars, even before the 240z. The Fairlady Z name has the heritage of all the Z cars so I have no problem with it at all. Neither so I have a problem with the Silvia name for the 180/200/240sx's.

Fr0dders · 6 Sep 2006 at 23:26

Cyber-Mav said:
my brother recently bought a subaru wrx 225bhp 54plate. its 0-60 is 5.7s and it deffo seems to be quicker than my mates m3 evolution which is 3.2ltr 320bhp. i think its because of the turbo it gives the engine more torque. then again i think its the 4 wheel drive gripping the road a lot more off the mark. but going from 60-120 the m3 evo seems to be more able.

huh ?

not quite sure how you can say that the 225bhp feels faster than the 320bhp M3

maybe your mistaking the difference in power delivery for power. The subaru is turbocharged, so most of the power comes when the turbo spools up mid revs. Wheras the M3 is naturally aspirated, so the power delivery is much more progressive.

having said that, id much rather have the 280bhp STI than the 320 m3.

Rotty · 6 Sep 2006 at 23:39

Clarkey said:
no, my father died

sorry to hear that mate , genuinely didn't know

I remember you and your dad used to spend a lot of time with the cars

Gibbo · 6 Sep 2006 at 23:56

Cyber-Mav said:
my brother recently bought a subaru wrx 225bhp 54plate. its 0-60 is 5.7s and it deffo seems to be quicker than my mates m3 evolution which is 3.2ltr 320bhp. i think its because of the turbo it gives the engine more torque. then again i think its the 4 wheel drive gripping the road a lot more off the mark. but going from 60-120 the m3 evo seems to be more able.

Hi there

Its the power delivery that causes this.

My Mustang is nearly 400BHP, 380Lb-Ft torque and weighs approx 1550kg and is RWD with no TC.

My 3000GT is approx 340BHP, 330Lb-Ft torque and weighs approx 1700kg this is 4WD.

When booting the Mustang its a completely linear acceleration curve, as revs build the power builds. Boot it at 1500rpm and it flies off immediately, boot it at 4000rpm and it snapps your head of nearly but it accelerates linear and is smooth. So it feels not so quick, but looking at the speedo makes you realise its very quick.

Wheras booting the 3000GT it pulls immediately and then you get a huge surge of power that just feels ace, plus because of this it feels much quicker than the Mustang, but you look at the speedo and its not going round quite as fast. Driving the 3000GT faster is easier though due to 4WD as you can just nail it in 1st and off you go and you can do it in the wet too. Nail the Mustang in 1st even in the dry and its possible to leave a lovely set of 11's up the road.

For example I think the Mitsubishi is somewhere in the region of 12-13s (14s stock) 0-100mph, wheras the Mustang is in the 11s region (12-13s stock). Both can hit 60mph in sub 5s, the 3000GT due to the 4WD and the Mustang due to the huge power/torque and a 1st gear that nearly hits 50mph.

I really like the 350Z, yeah it aint got straight line speed of an E46 M3 but I really do like the looks. Plus is the 350Z not really easy to tune though? As in for little money you could easily have 350BHP, which then surely enough to make it more reasonable in a straight line?

volospian · 7 Sep 2006 at 13:26

Paras said:
Someone pointed out how cheap imported 350z’s are. That’s a lot of car for very little money. Its quite hard to justify spending twice as much to get the same sort of performance (eg m3)
http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WW...urce=0&photo=1&sort=3&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH

Mmmm, cheap and money left over to buy one of these:

Vortech

Performance Stats Stock w/ V4NZ218-010SQ
2003-2004 Nissan 350Z
HP (Peak) Before: 287 After: 412
Torque (ft. lbs.) (Peak) Before: 274 After: 355

Snow-Munki · 7 Sep 2006 at 13:45

wow, really want one of these for my next car.

think i can afford it

just need to persuade the missus now !