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What different people have achieved at different times in cars of different tune on different roads are not really comparable.

I'll say categorically that an ST170 will be faster than a VTS above 100 MPH. At that speed, power is becoming virtually all that matters, and the ST has 40% more.
 
PMKeates said:
What different people have achieved at different times in cars of different tune on different roads are not really comparable.

I'll say categorically that an ST170 will be faster than a VTS above 100 MPH. At that speed, power is becoming virtually all that matters, and the ST has 40% more.
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Are ST's modable? Many of us are aware of what a VTS can be taken up too.

What about a focus?
 
digitalwolf said:
Are ST's modable? Many of us are aware of what a VTS can be taken up too.

What about a focus?
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Does it matter, though?

I could supercharge my car to 330hp, but it doesn't make it faster than a 335i now!
 
PMKeates said:
Does it matter, though?

I could supercharge my car to 330hp, but it doesn't make it faster than a 335i now!
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All I wanted to know is if ST's can be tuned.

A supercharged VTS would quite easily outrun a ST170........the video of one beating an M3 has been doing the rounds for ages.
 
I was picking up on your point about the 330i not being as fast as a 335i.

Different cars can be tuned and the results can be good (VTS) or they can be not so good (VTR).

I am aware that a 2.0l Focus can be tuned but wasn't sure about the ST.
 
They're fine but some say they're a bit ugly/getting on now. Bosch pumps are mainly on the earlier models. They run higher fuel pressure (180bar~) and are much more suited to veg oil than the Lucas. They generally see more power from tuning/better economy etc, presumably because of the higher pressure.
 
s0ck said:
They're fine but some say they're a bit ugly/getting on now. Bosch pumps are mainly on the earlier models. They run higher fuel pressure (180bar~) and are much more suited to veg oil than the Lucas. They generally see more power from tuning/better economy etc, presumably because of the higher pressure.
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Phase 1's can be picked up for <£1k with FSH (100k miles +)

It's a phase 2 I really want. Can you get more bhp out of a phase 1 than 2 due to different pumps/turbo's?
 
Remember Phase 2 306 DT's on an R or S plate with DHY engines have a habit of throwing conrods through the side of the block. A blot on the XUTD's otherwise perfect reliability copybook.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Remember Phase 2 306 DT's on an R or S plate with DHY engines have a habit of throwing conrods through the side of the block. A blot on the XUTD's otherwise perfect reliability copybook.
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Thanks for highlighting this ;)

Whats the DHY engine? Earlier HDi?
 
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[TW]Fox said:
Remember Phase 2 306 DT's on an R or S plate with DHY engines have a habit of throwing conrods through the side of the block. A blot on the XUTD's otherwise perfect reliability copybook.
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...which has been largely attributed to poor servicing/maintenance, not an inherent fault with the lump.
Oil and filter every 6k, job done.
 
s0ck said:
...which has been largely attributed to poor servicing/maintenance, not an inherent fault with the lump.
Oil and filter every 6k, job done.
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Strange though it doesn't affect earlier, older engines?
 
Well I asked this question on another board and this is the response I got :-

"if you disconnect the EGR valve they should never do the spitting out piston thing. the egr causes clogging of oil channels so the conrods dont get cooled. I think they fitted the non-turbo con rods or summit so when the cooling fails they fail and it all goes boom"
 
digitalwolf said:
I reckon in the twisties the VTS would leave the ST.
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Look what I found! :D

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