I started to hatch out an actual response, but then I realised it's a waste of time so I can't be bothered . You're disillusioned and only really care about making yourself feel morally superior. Assume whatever you may, the ramblings of an old man do not concern me.
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I started to hatch out an actual response, but then I realised it's a waste of time so I can't be bothered . You're disillusioned and only really care about making yourself feel morally superior. Assume whatever you may, the ramblings of an old man do not concern me.
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Horrible person.
I can't see why the Mods haven't dealt with you with the stuff you have come out with against women.
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You honestly can't see anything out of place
You took the teasing comment literally. I meant actually **** teasers, actual slappers, who go out with the sole intention of getting laid with whoever they end up with. Evidence suggests that this girl was exactly like that. Now I understand if you haven't ever experienced that, carry on with your rage posts though
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Sounds like you're in denial Dimple.
Women do go out on the pull to get railed.
Women do go out on the pull to get railed.
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Dimple, do you genuinely believe there aren't women who basically go out, get drunk and look for sex and act in a very promiscuous manor, or are you in fact acting like one of these white knights who would deny women ever act 'easy'.
Could he have used alternative terms than grimy slapper, sure, but to pretend there are no women like that out there is more ridiculous.
Also as with Tummy you seem to simply believe she is 100% a rape victim and then anyone who says she asked for it is saying she deserved to get raped. But what you and Tummy consistently ignore is that other people DO NOT BELIEVE SHE WAS RAPED. IF you don't believe she was raped and actually asked to be shagged by two blokes then saying she literally asked for it is NOT excusing rape and you can't simply pretend that is what the other person is saying based on your base opinion that she was raped.
His opinion and what he has said is based on the fact he thinks she was not raped, you simply can't decide he thinks she was raped and thinks she asked for it because you believe she was raped. How he's speaking, these two things are linked, you can't link your belief he is raped to the part where he says he is asking for it, these aren't connected in any way.
The grimy slapper may be over board, it might not be, I don't know her.
There are men and women out there who would prefer to bed 10 guys/girls a week than ever have a real conversation. They are people I wouldn't particularly want to associate with me but I have nothing particularly against them, if that is what they want to do that is fine by me.
But there are people in this thread who appear to be taking the stance that there can't possibly be women who are promiscuous and thus suggesting a women might be one is the mightiest of offences in the universe.
The only story I can find in any paper, any source, suggests this woman literally bumped into the first football and they basically said 1-2 sentences to each other before they were off to the hotel to have sex. I have no problem with that but it absolutely implies that she COULD BE someone who has sex extremely casually. People I know who are casual about sex have done the same thing(not really friends just people in the same groups I knew at uni), while people less casual about sex still may go home with someone at the end of a night but are more likely to find and spend a significant amount of time with one person in particular over an evening.
Could he have used alternative terms than grimy slapper, sure, but to pretend there are no women like that out there is more ridiculous.
Also as with Tummy you seem to simply believe she is 100% a rape victim and then anyone who says she asked for it is saying she deserved to get raped. But what you and Tummy consistently ignore is that other people DO NOT BELIEVE SHE WAS RAPED. IF you don't believe she was raped and actually asked to be shagged by two blokes then saying she literally asked for it is NOT excusing rape and you can't simply pretend that is what the other person is saying based on your base opinion that she was raped.
His opinion and what he has said is based on the fact he thinks she was not raped, you simply can't decide he thinks she was raped and thinks she asked for it because you believe she was raped. How he's speaking, these two things are linked, you can't link your belief he is raped to the part where he says he is asking for it, these aren't connected in any way.
The grimy slapper may be over board, it might not be, I don't know her.
There are men and women out there who would prefer to bed 10 guys/girls a week than ever have a real conversation. They are people I wouldn't particularly want to associate with me but I have nothing particularly against them, if that is what they want to do that is fine by me.
But there are people in this thread who appear to be taking the stance that there can't possibly be women who are promiscuous and thus suggesting a women might be one is the mightiest of offences in the universe.
The only story I can find in any paper, any source, suggests this woman literally bumped into the first football and they basically said 1-2 sentences to each other before they were off to the hotel to have sex. I have no problem with that but it absolutely implies that she COULD BE someone who has sex extremely casually. People I know who are casual about sex have done the same thing(not really friends just people in the same groups I knew at uni), while people less casual about sex still may go home with someone at the end of a night but are more likely to find and spend a significant amount of time with one person in particular over an evening.
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Hmm, I'm 56, I do know that and still have my fair share of offers from drunk women.
As above, I have no idea where you got that from.
Where did you get that from? stop telling lies.
I have no idea whether he is guilty or not except he was found guilty.
Reading the Ched Evans website looks like he's been hard done by but it is a one sided story.
I simply don't like the tone Captain Planet has been taking saying that women 'like her' 'deserve it'.
He didn't say she deserved anything that I noticed, he said she asked for it in a literal sense, as she supposedly literally asked him to perform sexual acts on her.
I think you're reading his posts with a certain amount of bias to the tone you're reading into it, as I'm not picking this same 'horrible person' vibe from his posts, seemingly nor are others.
I think you're reading his posts with a certain amount of bias to the tone you're reading into it, as I'm not picking this same 'horrible person' vibe from his posts, seemingly nor are others.
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Firstly lets address you telling me to stop telling lies after you quoted me saying you SEEM TO BELIEVE, if you seem that way to me that is what it is, I don't know how you think I told you how your posts seem to others. I did not, as you can see as you quoted my words, say you definitely believe this, I said that is how it seems to me, so telling me I'm lying about how your posts seems is rather rude but there you go.
Then again you prove my point by saying don't like his tone because he believes women like her deserve it. He has not said this. He said it appears as if she asked for it... being sex, not rape.
You've even quoted his direct words so I'll also quote them
You are taking this to men he thinks she deserves to be raped because she was asking for it.
He is simply saying from everything he's read she was literally asking for it... being sex, not rape. YOu are implying the last part and you seem to believe she was raped because you are interpreting one thing he said in that specific way.
If someone believes a woman asked for sex and there was no rape and says the words "she was literally asking for it", then you CAN'T take that to mean she deserved to be raped.
If someone believes a women asked for sex but WAS raped, and says the same words, you CAN imply that means she deserved to be rape.
Your interpretation of his simple words to mean something entirely different is both pretty rude and absolutely implies you believe it was rape which is what I suggested. If you can't see how this seems to other people then well, I give up.
Then again you prove my point by saying don't like his tone because he believes women like her deserve it. He has not said this. He said it appears as if she asked for it... being sex, not rape.
You've even quoted his direct words so I'll also quote them
You are taking this to men he thinks she deserves to be raped because she was asking for it.
He is simply saying from everything he's read she was literally asking for it... being sex, not rape. YOu are implying the last part and you seem to believe she was raped because you are interpreting one thing he said in that specific way.
If someone believes a woman asked for sex and there was no rape and says the words "she was literally asking for it", then you CAN'T take that to mean she deserved to be raped.
If someone believes a women asked for sex but WAS raped, and says the same words, you CAN imply that means she deserved to be rape.
Your interpretation of his simple words to mean something entirely different is both pretty rude and absolutely implies you believe it was rape which is what I suggested. If you can't see how this seems to other people then well, I give up.
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Why have you missed this out?
I'm gobsmacked you agree with him, you are one of the better posters on OCUK.
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Anyway I'm off to the pub to be chatted up by some grimy little slapper who deserves it.
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Yes I will take that back and apologise.
His posts still show him up to be the type of man he is.
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Anyway I'm off to the pub to be chatted up by some grimy little slapper who is literally asking for it.
From the little I know of the incident she didn't go back with 2 guys - she went back with Evans friend who messaged Evans and he arrived separately.
And to the people saying she literally asked for it - if I'm not mistaken that's according to Evans and his friend, not a fact.
It might be best not to throw around assumptions if we don't really know the full details.
And to the people saying she literally asked for it - if I'm not mistaken that's according to Evans and his friend, not a fact.
It might be best not to throw around assumptions if we don't really know the full details.
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An overachiever.
The hotel night porter heard the pair of them at it and certainly did have any concerns.