Children not allowed squash in school !
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No, it's not nonsense. It's people who say it is nonsense who are nonsense. You need to maintain an adequate glomerular filtration rate over a consistent time period to protect against long-term renal dysfunction throughout age. This is critically important in children, and the younger they are even more so. This is why the OP should challenge the school and speak to the head and ensure his child has adequate fluid that he is willing to consume at mealtimes.
And being as you quote what an adult requires and we are not on about an adult ... then presuming the OP's child is of average proportions for his age he would require 1108 mls / day just to maintain a homeostatic balance.
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Sorry but I don't force my kids to eat drink things they don't like , Don't get me wrong I encourage them to try everything but you can tell when your child doesn't like things or is faking not wanting to eat/drink them .
The squash we give him is no added sugar so just the natural sugar in them and we are lucky he is extremely advanced for his age so not stupid at all and well into sports so not fat just a big built lad
You sure it's not full of artificial flavourings or saccharin and sweetner.
No added sugar isn't the same as no added sweetener.
How did they even know that he wasn't just drinking water? They can't impose rules on impulse don't you have a PA? If not start one.
Assuming a 16 hour waking day that's about 78mls per hour. Which for a child is about two mouthfuls. I would assume however they have a larger drink than this on a morning, and larger with lunch, dinner and before bed. That greatly reduces the necessary fluid consumption per hour. Assuming lesson periods of 1 hour I don't think it's a massive stretch that they can go for an hour without say...50mls of fluid.
Also, note that the school aren't even banning fluid intake, they're just asking that students bring water only, which lets face it, is the essential part of fluid intake!
Water is in squash - fact.
Water is not however in refused drink - fact.
And you missed out the really important part of my post a) you need more than a homeostatic balance b) it needs to be consistently taken.
Therefore, if he is being refused squash at his lunch then it is an issue. If he is being refused squash outside of lunch then not so much as long as he has his lunchtime squash.
The lad should really be having 1.75l per day. Therefore, if he has say 500mls pre school - 500 at lunch - 500 tea - 250 pre bed then he does not really need much more.
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again, this is science misrepresented.
the evidence that children learn better by drinking lots of water is very very flimsy.
To be fair, it's very obvious to me when you teach a class, you see the kids that are under-nourished, sleep deprived etc. Especially first lesson: "what did you have for breakfast", "nothing"/"a can of Coke" etc.
It's not always their fault too - parents make bad choices, kids make bad choices. The school is the only place to reinforce it in some cases. Schools will do anything now for the extra 1% performance benefit or to appease Ofsted etc. We often joke with the kids that if research showed wearing a sombrero, a kilt and an Hawaiian shirt boosted exam performance, that's what we'd ask them to wear!
Completely agree. If you tried to explain this thread to anyone you'd sound mad.
But you've got two obviously opposing groups:
1) Child does as told. No room for movement. Follow all rules.
2) "I'd rather child was hydrated - if that means squash, so be it."
The school should use a bit of common sense, like most schools I imagine:
A recommended set of foods and drinks for packed lunches (for pupils who do not have school meals, which are controlled), including squash.
Water only in class rooms, with permission.
I know our feeder primaries are very, very similar on this score. This is how our secondary operates.
This is serving an area where there are a high proportion of FSM kids, School Action (Plus) kids etc. We have to do something to compensate for what may or may not happen at home. Even then, banning squash seems to be on the extreme side of things.
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OP how you gets well soon and you sort out this business with the school. If its about staining I can understand it, if its about diet, it seems a little silly.
As long as your child is having a reasonably healthy balanced diet I wouldnt take too much heed to the more extreme opinions in this thread.
Its almost as if were all striving to make humans perfect
As long as your child is having a reasonably healthy balanced diet I wouldnt take too much heed to the more extreme opinions in this thread.
Its almost as if were all striving to make humans perfect
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You also need to take into account water from food. I find the idea of children suffering from dehydration due to lack of access to fluids during lesson times to be incredibly unlikely, unless they're spending the prior day without access to food or water.
I find this one baffling. School says only water, give him water. When he gets thirsty enough he'll drink it. He may not like it, but it won't do him any harm. Seems a really stupid thing to get worked up about.
Oh, I have two kids in case you're wondering ...
Oh, I have two kids in case you're wondering ...
Water is good for you. Win win.
My kids never used to like water because my Mrs let them have juices too early.
I've got them all drinking water again and they love it now
Took a while for them to get used to it, but it's a good idea so just do it.
Thanks,
G
Same rule in my sons school too.
My kids never used to like water because my Mrs let them have juices too early.
I've got them all drinking water again and they love it now
Took a while for them to get used to it, but it's a good idea so just do it.Thanks,
G
Same rule in my sons school too.
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I don't now back in my school days the banned Items were Yo-Yo's, Pogs and Pokemon Cards now Flapjacks & Orange Squash?!?!?!?
I mean the Yo-Yo's and Pogs I could understand as they could be used maliciously to hurt /injure another pupil if you were Annoyed enough!
The Pokemon Cards were banned due to some of us enterprising young minds seeing an opportunity in the market for rare and shiny cards (I made quite a bit I should add) and tbh I thought this sort of enterprising behavior should be encouraged sadly I was wrong still didn't stop me selling them out side of school hours 
But Flapjacks I mean Honestly! Come on People! and squash I'd say fairplay if it was the sport they were talking about that can get vicious but the drink I'm sorry but I can see no way in hell that could be a health hazard unless you were to drown in it which is none too likely outside of the drinks factory!
I mean the Yo-Yo's and Pogs I could understand as they could be used maliciously to hurt /injure another pupil if you were Annoyed enough!
The Pokemon Cards were banned due to some of us enterprising young minds seeing an opportunity in the market for rare and shiny cards (I made quite a bit I should add
) and tbh I thought this sort of enterprising behavior should be encouraged sadly I was wrong still didn't stop me selling them out side of school hours But Flapjacks I mean Honestly! Come on People! and squash I'd say fairplay if it was the sport they were talking about that can get vicious but the drink I'm sorry but I can see no way in hell that could be a health hazard unless you were to drown in it which is none too likely outside of the drinks factory!
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If it's the school's decision, then you've probably got to stick with it.
Your child could make a killing by selling 'squash concentrate' for other children's water.
Your child could do a 'Rosa Parks' and sit outside the staff room chugging back fizzy drinks.
This is another thing that it should be the parent's responsibility to educate their child regarding diets, healthy weights etc. Because that doesn't happen, then the school has to take over the social education.
Your child could make a killing by selling 'squash concentrate' for other children's water.
Your child could do a 'Rosa Parks' and sit outside the staff room chugging back fizzy drinks.
This is another thing that it should be the parent's responsibility to educate their child regarding diets, healthy weights etc. Because that doesn't happen, then the school has to take over the social education.
When calculating fluid balance the only foods one would consider to actually be a net-giver of fluid would be something along the lines of jelly, milk etc. Because of the way the bulkier foods are handled then they are not a net contributor.
Define consistently taken. Are we talking a drip with 1ml per minute? Or are we talking 50mls per hour which is allowed.
There is nothing stopping the child drinking water. Nothing.
If he doesn't like the taste of what i'm assuming is tap water (which the OP claims) then use spring or mineral water or go the whole hog and distill it. Pure water physically has no taste so he cannot dislike the taste.
I understood most fruits and a lot of vegetables to be net contributors.
I defined it there at the bottom of the post you just quoted and qualified it with what would be and would not be a problem.
No, you would not include them. They are however very good for you and should be eaten!
I say your only allowed to drink things you don't like , If you get thirsty you have the only option of drinking my urine , How is that ?
I will not force him to drink something he doesn't like as if you think I should you are saying I should bully him in my mind that is abuse , everyone and I mean kids especially have a freedom of choice .
I haven't been aggressive with the school or confrontational so please could people still accusing me of this as I have barely been out of bed since brain surgery .
I will not force him to drink something he doesn't like as if you think I should you are saying I should bully him in my mind that is abuse , everyone and I mean kids especially have a freedom of choice .
I haven't been aggressive with the school or confrontational so please could people still accusing me of this as I have barely been out of bed since brain surgery .