Aye, but how much do you think that will cut off 200 years?
China ever going green ???
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Aye, but how much do you think that will cut off 200 years?
I have no idea how much we will cut off - but we can help point them down a better path, I think it is silly that all we are doing is imposing sanctions and taxes etc on this in China which won't help them at all!
I mean it is a different country yes, but it's our planet as a whole! make sure everyone is not polluting!
(God, how hippy-like did that sound?)
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I mean it is a different country yes, but it's our planet as a whole! make sure everyone is not polluting!
(God, how hippy-like did that sound?)
Rich
...and is also impressive. I had no idea the rainforest was larger than the entire land mass of the world.
Consider me learnt!
There are people basing their beliefs on books gazillions of years old.
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Another advantage of scaring us all over man made global warming (which i dont believe) is it stifles developing countries who are forced to use less reliable renewable sources slowing their development keeps the current powers there longer
We moved all our manufacturing over there as it was cheaper than keeping it here. The reason its cheaper as their laws are more lax on employment and environmental issues.
We pay less to poison the planet tbh.
Ok now ice caps melting and species extinction these are all results from climate change and human intervention. All major science research is pointing to human intervention at this point being the cause. It is similar to CFC's which are only being reduced in recent years. Thanks to india and china it will still be another 50 years before they are gone back to normal amounts!
Now cabon capture tech is coming along and will save everyone a hell of a lot of problems. We can not explain how gw is going on as there is no model capable for all dimension of the earth. But from general trends we can tell its human effect.
We pay less to poison the planet tbh.
Ok now ice caps melting and species extinction these are all results from climate change and human intervention. All major science research is pointing to human intervention at this point being the cause. It is similar to CFC's which are only being reduced in recent years. Thanks to india and china it will still be another 50 years before they are gone back to normal amounts!
Now cabon capture tech is coming along and will save everyone a hell of a lot of problems. We can not explain how gw is going on as there is no model capable for all dimension of the earth. But from general trends we can tell its human effect.
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I gave up on caring about GW a while ago. Not because I don't think it exists, but I think "it's" going to happen anyway so I'm just going to enjoy the time I've got while I can.
There's nothing wrong with individuals or countries wanting to be more efficient though, I'm just getting a bit sick of getting it rammed down my throat.
There's nothing wrong with individuals or countries wanting to be more efficient though, I'm just getting a bit sick of getting it rammed down my throat.
You missed out Mad Cow disease, that was gonna kill us all too
Also Acid Rain - it was going to destroy all the forests by the year 2000 or so - I think that they are all still there !
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but why does a relative small country as us have to be the 1st to show the world what to do when there are far bigger countries that won't change
87,846,277.5 Sq miles of rain forest has been cut down in the last 30 years?
That seems a little high to me considering the Earth has a total land mass of 57,511,026.002 square miles
Beaten, but I had large numbers so I win
Probably due to the misguided cretins we have in power!
And why do we choose to use automobiles as the primary way to cut back on CO2 when in fact automobiles are one of the lowest producers of the gas? The additional "carbon taxes" on shipping, air liners and industry is completely disproportionate to what the average motorist has had to pay. Hmm, maybe because severely carbon taxing those would hurt the economy whereas taxing the motorists actually inflates the economy!
87,846,277.5 Sq miles of rain forest has been cut down in the last 30 years?
That seems a little high to me considering the Earth has a total land mass of 57,511,026.002 square miles
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Absolutely, but at the time NOBODY questioned it, it was fact because Greenpeace said so even at the time in secondary school where the leather armpatch wearing geography teacher used to trot garbage like that out we were shaking our heads.
He used to have a graph that showed fossil fuels running out buy the year 2000 as well, the n0ob.
In fact, looking at it, he should have been saying "year" but we had everything from day, month, week etc etc.
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They are still there because acid rain has almost stopped. And it has almost stopped because we stopped pumping the pollutants that caused it into the atmosphere.
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Going back to the original topic of China going green, I thought there was quite a lot in the news recently about China recognising that it needs to do something, though I have been over seas and watching BBC World for the last week which gives a more global view than our news. China is suffering terrible from climate change both in terms of flooding and desertification and they recognise that something needs doing.
Recent articles I've seen include:
The admission of the Chinese government that the Three Gorges dam project is an ecological disaster and they need to invest heavily to rectify it.
China is investing billions in halting the desertification in it's northern and central regions.
China are in the process of replacing all of their coal fired power stations with more efficient ones, which is a huge investment. It's still coal which is the dirtiest of the fossil fuels, but nothing else can meet their demands at the moment, so it's still progress.
In fact, in that article the government said that they were making the environment the cornerstone of their new economic development strategy, even though a survey of all of china's mayors found that 90% of them did not want environmentalism to stand in the way of economic growth. I may not agree with China's system of government, but at least they don't have to pander to popularism when they realise it would mean doing the wrong thing.
Recent articles I've seen include:
The admission of the Chinese government that the Three Gorges dam project is an ecological disaster and they need to invest heavily to rectify it.
China is investing billions in halting the desertification in it's northern and central regions.
China are in the process of replacing all of their coal fired power stations with more efficient ones, which is a huge investment. It's still coal which is the dirtiest of the fossil fuels, but nothing else can meet their demands at the moment, so it's still progress.
In fact, in that article the government said that they were making the environment the cornerstone of their new economic development strategy, even though a survey of all of china's mayors found that 90% of them did not want environmentalism to stand in the way of economic growth. I may not agree with China's system of government, but at least they don't have to pander to popularism when they realise it would mean doing the wrong thing.
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i think culling Africa would solve a lot of our problems, but apparently its ethically wrong to do that so instead we have to change our nice lifestyles 