Chinese cars

snowdog said:
That is odd, a TM3 is rwd is 39k here, while the cheapest ID3 is is 34k (which is the slowass 170 hp version, the 204 hp versions start from 39k just like the TM3).

But to get the same options/features you need to spend the same. I've had colleagues with the 50k ''style'' spec and that still only gets you a meagre 204 hp and 100 mph top speed...
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Are you comparing RRP with the amount you'd actually pay for one at a dealer?

VW don't sell direct, dealers always have 'discounts' available, particularly these days, a dealer not that far from me has a Pro Match trim available for £29k, RRP is £36.6k on the website, no haggling needed.

The bigger battery (77kwh) version is available for £33k with a 'free' Ohme charger (fitted) and 2 years 'free' servicing thrown in, RRP is £40k.

Edit: none of these are Chinese cars, lets get back to topic.
 
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snowdog said:
Errr, the Tesla now has double glazed windows and is quieter than an ID3, which is quite noisy on the motorway imho, especially at speed ( as far as it can get to any meaningful speed).
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You been on the kool aid I think. My mum doesn’t care about cars. She even said the Tesla felt cheap and rode like a horse and cart. And it is both cheap and rode bad. 2020 and 2021. Maybe the newer ones are ‘better’. The steering squeaked too as in the vid you ignored

My born is very quiet in motorway so I can’t imagine the ID3 being much different. Teslarati are out in force
 
Pesky Chinese spying on their car users. Not the only ones it seems..
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