Chipset overheating, crashing

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Heyo,

Apologies if this is in the wrong place. Wasn't sure where to throw this.


Currently running:

Asus Rog Strix x570-F Gaming
Ryzen 5900x
RX 7900 xtx


For the last few months, I have been experiencing completely random crashes. The computer would "choke" out, then a black screen. Seemingly out of nowhere. I thought it was probably the GPU, I also wanted a new GPU at the time so I grabbed the new card. Lo and behold it crashes still!

It wasn't until today I managed to sit down and really dig for the issue, for the last few days I have been running core-cycler and OCCT, just trying different loads to test for stability. Everything was fine... I loaded up Cyperpunk for a few hours, and it crashed. To restart I had to hold down the power button, I started instantly and it started a black screen. I loaded up HWInfo and watched my GPU and Chipset temps. GPU got toasty, 100c memory junction, 80c "gpu temp", other temps on it in the 90s. My chipset however, 113.8c. Which seems rather high.

I restarted and repeated twice, both times it crashed with a chipset temp of 113.8. So, pretty convinced that is the issue. Now, does anyone know what I should do? It seems to be exacerbated by the new GPU. I have grabbed a couple new fans to replace the top fans to push more air out of the case. I am wondering if perhaps I should consider it as a motherboard fault. Super lost and not sure what to do!

Still have some issues with 7900 xtx, but can't super test it as this issue is in my way.
 
I don't know if this is your issue or not (113.8 seems suspect as a reading, to me), but I seem to remember some early Asus X570 boards had no thermal paste/pads between the chipset and the heatsink.

"Thanks for the response. Decided to take apart the motherboard to have a look and you were right the chipset had no thermal pad or paste!

https://i.imgur.com/C0YXQAg.jpg

I applied thermal paste and seated the heatsink without screwing it in. Then removed the heatsink to find the paste is not spreading across the chipset since there is no contact between the two. Probably for the clearance required for the missing thermal pad..

https://i.imgur.com/8OuwPwR.jpg

Quite extraordinary how Asus have managed to screw up this bad. The motherboard basically had no cooling before. Can’t imagine how many others out there have this issue and how Asus is getting away without a recall. The chipset would’ve failed prematurely eventually. I decided to stick a 2p coin between the chipset and heatsink to provide contact. Paste on both sides."
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Ah wonderful, let me take a look. I don't have any thermal pads, is there a certain type I should get?

Or is the a "good" way to hack it together
 
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Used the same motherboard before and never had issues, but the chipset was hotter than any other I’ve used before. To add to the issue, as pretty much all 3rd party GPU now will blow hot air sideways, NVME/M.2 and chipset running really hot doesn’t surprise me.
But not as hot as you’re saying.
I don’t have the motherboard anymore but having someone who dries to compare if voltages are normal would be a starting point.
Yes, the poor thermalpads on X570 was one of the reason I ended up changing for MSI for Alder Lake. Also the slow boot.
 
blackarrow said:
Looks like it already has it all.

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The fan on the chipset also works as it was spinning when I was just testing



EDIT: Maybe this pad is lacking, the chipset is dry. Just a pad?

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Looks like your board isn't one of the boards that didn't have anything.

How much load are you pushing through the chipset? You could try reducing that, but I suspect maybe your problem is elsewhere and that reading is phoney.
 
Tetras said:
Looks like your board isn't one of the boards that didn't have anything.

How much load are you pushing through the chipset? You could try reducing that, but I suspect maybe your problem is elsewhere and that reading is phoney.
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Stock 5900x and 7900 xtx.

I thought the number may be wrong but it is very consistently crashing at that value. And monitoring it linearly increases from ~40c.

I've just flashed the bios again, reinstalled windows, thrown a different PSU in. I'm now just testing it with the 7900 xtx then I'll throw in an old card and see if it still goes hot.


I'm wondering if it's the 7900 xtx running hot causing issues for the chipset cooler. As it does sit right in front
 
Drumroll said:
Used the same motherboard before and never had issues, but the chipset was hotter than any other I’ve used before. To add to the issue, as pretty much all 3rd party GPU now will blow hot air sideways, NVME/M.2 and chipset running really hot doesn’t surprise me.
But not as hot as you’re saying.
I don’t have the motherboard anymore but having someone who dries to compare if voltages are normal would be a starting point.
Yes, the poor thermalpads on X570 was one of the reason I ended up changing for MSI for Alder Lake. Also the slow boot.
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What would be a "acceptable but hot" temperature range you would expect from experience?
 
blackarrow said:
Stock 5900x and 7900 xtx.

I thought the number may be wrong but it is very consistently crashing at that value. And monitoring it linearly increases from ~40c.

I've just flashed the bios again, reinstalled windows, thrown a different PSU in. I'm now just testing it with the 7900 xtx then I'll throw in an old card and see if it still goes hot.


I'm wondering if it's the 7900 xtx running hot causing issues for the chipset cooler. As it does sit right in front
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Is it possible to bodge a fan, so that is blowing air directly at/over the chipset?

By load, I mean things that use the chipset. I don't think there's a block diagram in your manual, but usually it includes: NVME/M.2 (not primary), SATA ports, USB (not all) and PCI-E slots (not graphics).
 
Tetras said:
Is it possible to bodge a fan, so that is blowing air directly at/over the chipset?

By load, I mean things that use the chipset. I don't think there's a block diagram in your manual, but usually it includes: NVME/M.2 (not primary), SATA ports, USB (not all) and PCI-E slots (not graphics).
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I thought about that, but it's placement on the board is exactly where the GPU sits

Just an m.2, 2x Sata SSD then usb peripherals. Nothing super crazy.
 
Tetras said:
Ahh, doesn't sound like much of a load, then. I assume you can't increase the fan speed of the chipset?
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It seems to be spinning pretty fast. The only place I could see a report for it was in asus software. It was running at like 3000 rpm, it's pretty loud too :D
 
random_matt said:
The latter throws out more heat. Get some TFX paste or similar.
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Tetras said:
Is there a difference in the cooler design? Some coolers have enclosed shrouds, for example.
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Is an 7900 xtx mba vs a xfx 5700 xt thicc iii ultra.


Interestingly, the temperatures reported on hwinfo is similar, if not hotter in some cases on the 5700 xt


Using the 5700 xt it is running at 85c but is showing an upward trend just very slowly
 
Hard to tell from pictures of the board but is that a massive cover in front of the fan? It looks rather restrictive. Is it possible to remove the cover to allow the fan a bit more breathing space?
 
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