Chiropractors calling themselves 'Dr'

[dowie]

Thing is, go on, call yourselves (and chiros) "Doctors" and be "right". Put it on all your cards/letters etc.

Then when on a plane or ship, when a Doctor is needed for a medical emergency, and you are then identified, i hope you know what to do. It isnt uncommon for crew to scan the passenger manifests looking for a doctor when need arises.

This isn't a thread about people with PhDs calling themselves 'Dr' (despite the first few replies which didn't' actually address and rather missed to point of the OP)

Someone with a PhD is perfectly entitled to call themselves 'Dr' and book plane tickets using the title - though if they get a free upgrade as a result they prob ought to state they're not medics.

But anyway this is about Chiropractors calling themselves 'Dr' - your plane example is perhpas even more worrying in this situation - whilst I'd be reasonably confident that a lecturer in English literature will swiftly declare that he's not a medic I'd be slightly more worried about the potential response of a Chiropractor in your scenario.

 

[stigggeh]

What about prof's in leadership and change management... oh hell

 

[Energize]

Thing is, go on, call yourselves (and chiros) "Doctors" and be "right". Put it on all your cards/letters etc.

Then when on a plane or ship, when a Doctor is needed for a medical emergency, and you are then identified, i hope you know what to do. It isnt uncommon for crew to scan the passenger manifests looking for a doctor when need arises.

Go around splashing your title with or without the intention to mislead, without taking responsibility for the time you will waste in explaining how you are not medically trained and to find a DOCTOR.

It would be ridiculous to criticise a legitimate doctor for writing his title down correctly because the staff may stupidly assume that person is a physician. Just as stupid as blaming a surgeon for someone's death because he used the title Mr. instead of Dr. or expecting a lecturer at university to operate on someone.

 

[meghatronic]

Thing is, go on, call yourselves (and chiros) "Doctors" and be "right". Put it on all your cards/letters etc.

Then when on a plane or ship, when a Doctor is needed for a medical emergency, and you are then identified, i hope you know what to do. It isnt uncommon for crew to scan the passenger manifests looking for a doctor when need arises.

Go around splashing your title with or without the intention to mislead, without taking responsibility for the time you will waste in explaining how you are not medically trained and to find a DOCTOR.

Go and read the wiki article on the Doctor title. No go on - I'll wait.

In this instance, the crew are very much in the wrong.

 

[orderoftheflame]

Then when on a plane or ship, when a Doctor is needed for a medical emergency, and you are then identified, i hope you know what to do. It isnt uncommon for crew to scan the passenger manifests looking for a doctor when need arises.

Go around splashing your title with or without the intention to mislead, without taking responsibility for the time you will waste in explaining how you are not medically trained and to find a DOCTOR.

Stop watching so much TV. It's perfectly legitimate for anyone that has earned the Dr. title to use it in any situation they wish, including on a plane.

 

[Destination]

Stop watching so much TV. It's perfectly legitimate for anyone that has earned the Dr. title to use it in any situation they wish, including on a plane.

Indeed, and better still, the 'Dr' title that physicians use, and is commonly accepted as their 'job title' is merely an honourary title, granted due to the length of duration of their course. Surgeons in the UK still use the title Mr, and some will revert to using Dr if they subsequently gain a PhD.

 

[frosty03]

Stop watching so much TV. It's perfectly legitimate for anyone that has earned the Dr. title to use it in any situation they wish, including on a plane.

I'm not saying or getting into the rights/wrongs of using the title.

All I'm saying is that if you use the title, be prepared to live with whatever consequences that are generated. Be it due to ignorance or otherwise, one has to accept that there is a distinct possibility that some will be mislead into thinking said person was a physician.

So the next time the announcement comes "Is there a doctor in the house/plane/ship", go on, say YES and identify yourself in public. But then go on and explain how you cannot help, but are indeed a doctor. And it is they should have been more specific and said "Is there a medically trained doctor" instead rather than being presumptuous.

Or maybe i'm just too pragmatic....

 

[frosty03]

I'm not saying or getting into the rights/wrongs of using the title.

All I'm saying is that if you use the title, be prepared to live with whatever consequences that are generated. Be it due to ignorance or otherwise, one has to accept that there is a distinct possibility that some will be mislead into thinking said person was a physician.

So the next time the announcement comes "Is there a doctor in the house/plane/ship", go on, say YES and identify yourself in public. But then go on and explain how you cannot help, but are indeed a "doctor". And it is they should have been more specific and said "Is there a medically trained doctor" instead rather than being presumptuous.

Or maybe i'm just too pragmatic....

 

[orderoftheflame]

So the next time the announcement comes "Is there a doctor in the house/plane/ship", go on, say YES and identify yourself in public. But then go on and explain how you cannot help, but are indeed a doctor. And it is they should have been more specific and said "Is there a medically trained doctor" instead rather than being presumptuous.

I'm pretty sure if anyone that's managed to qualify for a doctorate is on a plane when the call for "Is there a doctor here" comes up, they'd have the self control and intelligence to realise that the crew are after a physician.

They don't all stand up and go:

"I'm a doctor....... In Computer Science!"

 

[Sida]

My friend's mom is known as Dr. She purchased it on the internet.

 

[Castiel]

I'm not saying or getting into the rights/wrongs of using the title.

All I'm saying is that if you use the title, be prepared to live with whatever consequences that are generated. Be it due to ignorance or otherwise, one has to accept that there is a distinct possibility that some will be mislead into thinking said person was a physician.

So the next time the announcement comes "Is there a doctor in the house/plane/ship", go on, say YES and identify yourself in public. But then go on and explain how you cannot help, but are indeed a doctor. And it is they should have been more specific and said "Is there a medically trained doctor" instead rather than being presumptuous.

Or maybe i'm just too pragmatic....

If someone in a public place, be it a form of transport or otherwise, asks if there is a "doctor in the house" it is plain to anyone with a modicum of common sense and intellect that they are referring to a Physician. So why on earth would a PhD in a non medical field (or indeed anyone with the title who is not a Physician) even identify themselves in that way.

They would simply keep quiet like everyone else.

 

[oli collett]

Doctor is not a protected title.

So, chiros can call themselves doctor if their qualifications allow them to. However, if they are implying that they are a medical doctor in their advertising, this might land them into trouble - see here:
http://www.zenosblog.com/2011/04/is-there-a-doctor-in-the-clinic/

It's the same problem with chiropractors as it is with homeopaths etc.

 

[D.P.]

Thing is, go on, call yourselves (and chiros) "Doctors" and be "right". Put it on all your cards/letters etc.

Then when on a plane or ship, when a Doctor is needed for a medical emergency, and you are then identified, i hope you know what to do. It isnt uncommon for crew to scan the passenger manifests looking for a doctor when need arises.

Go around splashing your title with or without the intention to mislead, without taking responsibility for the time you will waste in explaining how you are not medically trained and to find a DOCTOR.

That is the fault of people making assumptions.

Medical doctors without a PhD should really use the term M.D., for medical doctor since they don't have a full doctorate. This would clear up confused.

Using ones correct title as Dr has many bonuses, free upgrades in flights and hotels etc.

 

[D.P.]

If someone in a public place, be it a form of transport or otherwise, asks if there is a "doctor in the house" it is plain to anyone with a modicum of common sense and intellect that they are referring to a Physician. So why on earth would a PhD in a non medical field (or indeed anyone with the title who is not a Physician) even identify themselves in that way.

They would simply keep quiet like everyone else.

Exactly.

 

[meghatronic]

I'm not saying or getting into the rights/wrongs of using the title.

All I'm saying is that if you use the title, be prepared to live with whatever consequences that are generated. Be it due to ignorance or otherwise, one has to accept that there is a distinct possibility that some will be mislead into thinking said person was a physician.

So the next time the announcement comes "Is there a doctor in the house/plane/ship", go on, say YES and identify yourself in public. But then go on and explain how you cannot help, but are indeed a doctor. And it is they should have been more specific and said "Is there a medically trained doctor" instead rather than being presumptuous.

Or maybe i'm just too pragmatic....

Well, an air hostess has come up to me before and said, "Are you a doctor?". I've said "yes, but not a medical doctor". She apologised and asked someone else. Exactly why I didn't identify myself when they asked for a doctor over the intercom. So... yeah....

 

[Evilsod]

"I'm a doctor....... In Computer Science!"

Shirley, you can't be serious!

Anyway i was under the impression actual medical doctors should use the term 'M.D.' after there names...

That or i'm making some giant assumptions after watching House M.D.

 

[Grimley]

I see a Chiropractor, it helps my back no end. I need to do everything I can to try and slow down the progression of the disease. No stopping it, just delaying it. All I can do is fight it as much as possible. With exercise, chiropractors, drugs and painkillers.

So yes Chiropractors have their uses.

Yep - no idea what I'd do without mine - I would've certainly had've quit the job I do now if I didn't go to mine once every 4 weeks.

When I 1st went there, they took an x-ray & said I had a herniated disc in my vertebrae (the one right at the bottom of my spine) & the 2 below it were going the same way but were 'treatable'. I began treatment & its cost me a fair bit of money over the years but at least I'm in less pain than I was before I began going there (I was in agony most nights & couldn't sleep due to the pain) at least my chiropractor has done something to relieve my back pain. I still get back pain today but nowhere near as bad. I have sciatica too (I have pins & needles sensation in my left foot all the time now)

Which is more than can be said for my GP
He prescribed painkillers & told me to buy a book on back exercises. Fat lot of good he was.

I may as well have gone to see DOCTOR WHO about my back pain!

& BTW my chiropractor doesn't call himself 'doctor'

 

[Cosimo]

Anyone with a Phd is a doctor and can use that title. It's not just those with a medical degree.

 

[shroomz]

OP is wrong on so many levels.

1) You may not have back problems, but you ask anyone who does and they will be getting help from a chiropractor
2) I have never heard of a chiropractor using Dr. as their salutation, therefore the person will most likely have a PhD or D.Phil
3) No one who is not an M.D. will put their hand up like a kindergarden child screaming MEMEMEME! when someone is having a heart attack on an aeroplane, including PhD's and D.Phil's
4) Medical doctors are given the Dr title because of the course and because in the past, they will almost certainly have had a PhD. Now, they are still given the title because of the length and difficulty of the course.

EDIT - I see everything I have said has already been said

 

[frosty03]

Using ones correct title as Dr has many bonuses, free upgrades in flights and hotels etc.

Therein lies the nub. These "upgrades" are nice, but the "price" they come with is that if the need arises, the doctor would step up and help. Most would in any case, but being treated nicely does help. Most people(that i know) who offer the upgrades, also think they are giving it to a medically qualified doctor (maybe incorrectly?).

OTOH, you have chiros etc etc taking advantage of the presumptions, yet can offer nothing in return should the need arise.

I cant see how anybody can morally take advantage of this fact, although technically they are "right", and it is the staff/crew who are "wrong" in making presumptions/assumptions. The next time a phD doctor is offered an upgrade or some other "perk", I do hope they would at the same time point out they are not medically trained. If so, then i would say fair is fair.

I for one always ask when confronted by a "Dr", you'd be surprised how often they only have phDs, and then go all red. I wonder why...... since they are technically "right"....