Choice of uni pros and cons

but surely if i complete my first year at a uni well enough i could move to a better/different one without many problems

Fragalot said:
I go to UCLAN, just about to finish my first year. If you have any questions let me know! P
What you taking ?
 
Nitefly said:
Ah. Well, both Uni's are supposed to be as good as one another, but UWE is better known.

I would go to UWE, as I have already said. However, rather than do the foundation year.... resit college and get some better A levels and re-apply instead.

Well I guess rather than slating both uni's I could tell you a little about both.

Firsly, both aren't bad places to live in. I mean Preston is quite a nice city, my sister happens to be a teacher there, and I live in Bristol. Depends what you want I guess. Nightlife is shockingly bad in Bristol and at least in Preston your not far from Manchester / Liverpool where as in Bristol your your ages from anywhere. Nothing to split them academically, although for CS Preston probably is a little better.

In terms of academic quality though both are without question rubbish.

Consider the resiting exams option carefully, UWE might just turn out to be an expensive way to waste three years of your life.

Davem
 
Mattus said:
In the interest of not giving the guy false expectations... that just isn't true. The students who have fun are those who get out and explore the opportunities Uni has to offer. I know people who seem to sit in their rooms all the time, and they're not having fun at all. It's what you make of it.
Quoted for the truth.

There's this lad on our course, no doubt about it he's very clued up on programming but he lives in his room pretty much 24/7 with very little friends.

I talk to him sometimes and he's fairly anti-social. Not good imo.

I'm in my first year and I love the experience. Really does shape your character!
 
Resiting A levels is pretty much not an option unless i retake college as a whole as i only 2 A Levels and 1 AS level (was kicked off the course and was told i wouldn't be allowed to take it again there, longish story)
 
Dreadi said:
Resiting A levels is pretty much not an option unless i retake college as a whole as i only 2 A Levels and 1 AS level (was kicked off the course and was told i wouldn't be allowed to take it again there, longish story)

Sorry to hear that mate,

My best adive then is if you go to UWE / UCLAN work your ass off, and try and get a move to Uni of Bristol / Uni of Manchester between your first and second year (this can be done and I know people who have done it). Socialising is an important part of uni, but betting a job and a sound future is too.

DaveM
 
Nitefly said:
I'd disagree quite strongly, I think there is something for everyone.


If you strongly disagree then you probably haven't been anywhere else. Do a comparison between the band playing in Manc and the band playing in the Brizzle, says it all IMO
 
DAVEM said:
Nightlife is shockingly bad in Bristol....

Seems pretty good to me, especially if you venture up Whiteladies road.

BTW to the op, I'm doing Computer Systems Engineering.

DAVEM said:
University should be treated as a priviledge not a right IMO.

Well unfortunately thats just not the way anymore. You are EXPECTED to go to university nowadays, and now the government has started messing about with top up fees and all that jazz unis are lowering themselves to make some money. Sadly thats all tehre is to it, money money money.
 
University League tables can change radically each year, so take those with a pinch of salt - for example this year the Times did not include teaching quality in its 07 university guide...an obvious important factor.

Although it is unfair and harsh to call every post 1992 university 'crap,' it would be more beneficial to go to a more established university...But in the end if you get a good mark i.e a high 2:i or a first then it should in theory not matter.
 
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Chris1712 said:
Seems pretty good to me, especially if you venture up Whiteladies road.

BTW to the op, I'm doing Computer Systems Engineering.



Well unfortunately thats just not the way anymore. You are EXPECTED to go to university nowadays, and now the government has started messing about with top up fees and all that jazz unis are lowering themselves to make some money. Sadly thats all tehre is to it, money money money.

Ha ha, I live in Clifton Village so I "venture" up there all the time! You've probably sat next to me in the Tea Party if without realising it, ha ha

Yeah its a sad time that everyone is expected to go to uni. Why can't the goverment just accept that university isn't for everyone. I'd love to see courses to train people how to be front line IT support for example.

BTW good look I here CSE at UWE is one of there better courses! :)
 
Liefrich said:
University League tables can change radically each year, so take those with a pinch of salt.

Although it is unfair and harsh to call every post 1992 university 'crap,' it would be more beneficial to go to a more established university...But in the end if you get a good mark i.e a high 2:i or a first then it should in theory not matter.

Probably the best measure of a university (IMO) is it's RAE rating in your subject, for my area and uni it's 6*. A university with anything below four in your subject you should SERIOUSLY think twice about before applying.

Davem
 
Nitefly said:
Ooooo me too, how exciting :p

Ha ha cool kids always live in nice areas! :D


P.S. know anywhere decent to watch the football, tend to goto the White Lion Inn, but its a bit pants for the sport! :)
 
RAE is a great indicator of the course and university's strength's, although i thought the maxim mark is 5*. Like I said the RAE was excluded from the Times rankings this year so take that into account when looking at the league table.

I think DAVEM is talking sense, if you go to a below average University and get a 2:2 or worse than you're really doing yourself no favors. Clearing can often throw up some surprises in fact you can sometimes get into some top20 Uni's with C's or even lower. Remember the University's need to fill the places.
 
DAVEM said:
P.S. know anywhere decent to watch the football, tend to goto the White Lion Inn, but its a bit pants for the sport! :)
Only sports bar I know of is 'Roo Bar' just down an alley by Whiteladie's Sainsburies. Not toooo far away, but its always a pretty rowdy sports atmosphere with many big screens.

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Liefrich said:
RAE is a great indicator of the course and university's strength's, although i thought the maxim mark is 5*. Like I said the RAE was excluded from the Times rankings this year so take that into account when looking at the league table.

I think DAVEM is talking sense, if you go to a below average University and get a 2:2 or worse than you're really doing yourself no favors. Clearing can often throw up some surprises in fact you can sometimes get into some top20 Uni's with C's or even lower. Remember the University's need to fill the places.

Not quite correct, certain departments where recently flagged as 6* (rather than 5* usual), an upgrade they called it I believe. Our dept certainly was.

5* is supposed to mark "international class research" and I think the 6* star bit was to indicate that your a university is a leader in a particular field
 
Nitefly said:
Only sports bar I know of is 'Roo Bar' just down an alley by Whiteladie's Sainsburies. Not toooo far away, but its always a pretty rowdy sports atmosphere with many big screens.

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Lol @ hijack but cheers, thats the Auzzy bar I take it, I'll check it out cheers! Plus in the normal Home > Union Pool > Uni routine.
 
If you want to get a job, perhaps UWE isn't the best, but, if you're considering doing a masters/PhD or doctorate then it's not bad as;

a) UWE do a fair few 'higher' courses, so attending the Uni for undergrad is going to help

b) it's an 'upcoming' uni with a great standard of teaching quality (depending on course)

and, at the end of the day, if you get a 1st from UWE, lots of doors will be open. Perhaps not as many as a 1st from Bristol Uni, but it certainly won't hold you back as much as people in this thread are making out. I'm heading for a 1st from UWE at the moment, and I have plenty of options for post-grad courses - some from 'red brick' uni's, some from polys.

Just survey your options carefully.
 
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