Chuckability

Sargeantpepper · 26 Mar 2007 at 22:52

Got to be one of the ultimate fwd cars your teg, I love them.

Referring back to my comment about rover engineering...I was reading about this the other day...the bmw and rover teams were actually based in their respective countries to begin with...so you can imagine the politics that went on there!

Apparently at one point bmw planned to put drum brakes on the one and cooper, when rover had already planned for discs!! Or something like that anway!! :eek:

eidolon · 26 Mar 2007 at 22:53

timbob said:
Probably just about the most chuckeableist of the lot!

Until I came along

Sargeantpepper · 26 Mar 2007 at 22:54

eidolon said:
Until I came along

are we including cars made of plastic??

jk

-Neil- · 27 Mar 2007 at 00:22

eidolon said:
Until I came along

Not fair, yours is missing two seats and a hefty chunk of weight

Neil.

silversurfer · 27 Mar 2007 at 02:02

Recently come to the conclusion, a mk3 micra (stock)is more chuckable then a mk2 216 (stock)

Not sure if its weight or a better chassis or both even.

Ive seen a lotus do 60 right round a loose hairpin bend so I'd call that chuckable/unbelievable

eidolon · 27 Mar 2007 at 07:29

silversurfer said:
Ive seen a lotus do 60 right round a loose hairpin bend so I'd call that chuckable/unbelievable

I've been in a Lotus doing that and it's freaky, feels like you're defying the laws of physics. I can only imagine how good they must handle on Nitrons/Yokos.

Lowe · 27 Mar 2007 at 09:14

Food for thought lads. Is a Lotus Elise 'chuckable'?

I've only ever been a passenger in one, but from what I gathered the Lotus needed to be treated with respect and driven smoothly to get the best from it. Chucking it around aggressively only upset the car to the point where it provokes oversteer, often ending you up in a ditch because it's mid engine/ RWD.

To me, 'chuckability' is where you can be a bit of an **** driving the car around the bends and yet you still come out the other end in one piece smiling. Hot hatches are high on the chuckable scale, but proper sportscars generally in my opinion aren't.

Discuss...

eidolon · 27 Mar 2007 at 09:29

Lowe said:
Food for thought lads. Is a Lotus Elise 'chuckable'?

I certainly think so. You can drive stupidly, making quick direction changes and it'll stick. The MR2 on the other hand was totally different in that you had to respect it otherwise it would bite.

HEADRAT · 27 Mar 2007 at 09:34

Hi Lowe,

I think your right but it does depend on road conditions as well, if the roads are wet our greasy then chucking the Z4 around and giving it "large" will just end in one thing, the rear end trying to overtake the front end!

The Z4 has just scary amounts of grip, in fact my neck/body starts to hurt if I drive too aggressively, in the dry you really can just chuck it in to any corner you like and the thing will stick like **** to a blanket.

I would say it doesn't take kindly to be "chucked" about but I guess you could if you really wanted to, I think your premise is correct that "proper" sports cars you require a little more respect. I think the Z4 is known for being a bit more of a "handful" than say a boxter but that's what I love about it, it's more envolving and makes you feel like you are "driving" the car. I love the Boxter S but it flatters the driver to much, the Z4 can be a bit of an animal at times which just makes me

HEADRAT

Jonnycoupe · 27 Mar 2007 at 09:42

timbob said:
Probably just about the most chuckeableist of the lot!

My focus Zetec is more chuckable than the Teg.

Tegs tend to have a dead steering centre, which is ace for loading up and controlling in mid corner on and off the power but for razzing around roundabouts and so on the Focus is more chuckable, although lacking in feedback it will never really catch you out and its not all that fast so you can drive with no real concern of limits.

Simon · 27 Mar 2007 at 11:15

HEADRAT said:
I would say it doesn't take kindly to be "chucked" about but I guess you could if you really wanted to, I think your premise is correct that "proper" sports cars you require a little more respect. I think the Z4 is known for being a bit more of a "handful" than say a boxter but that's what I love about it, it's more envolving and makes you feel like you are "driving" the car. I love the Boxter S but it flatters the driver to much, the Z4 can be a bit of an animal at times which just makes me

HEADRAT

Is that with DSC, ABS, EBD, auto brake drying, auto wipers and auto headlights?

Simon · 27 Mar 2007 at 11:16

Lowe said:
Food for thought lads. Is a Lotus Elise 'chuckable'?

I've only ever been a passenger in one, but from what I gathered the Lotus needed to be treated with respect and driven smoothly to get the best from it. Chucking it around aggressively only upset the car to the point where it provokes oversteer, often ending you up in a ditch because it's mid engine/ RWD.

To me, 'chuckability' is where you can be a bit of an **** driving the car around the bends and yet you still come out the other end in one piece smiling. Hot hatches are high on the chuckable scale, but proper sportscars generally in my opinion aren't.

Discuss...

I agree. My S2000 isn't chuckable, you need to be smooth.

HEADRAT · 27 Mar 2007 at 11:17

Simon said:
Is that with DSC, ABS, EBD, auto brake drying, auto wipers and auto headlights?

Yup

I'm not adverse to a little tech. helping me keep it on the black stuff, DSC has saved by butt a few times this winter, turn it OFF in the dry though for tail happy fun

HEADRAT

timbob · 27 Mar 2007 at 16:59

My old 106gti on Billies was stupid chuckable around roundabouts in the dry. You could just drive at the roundabout and hoof the wheel over Kimi Raikonnen style, and it would just dart in. It might not have had the outright grip of some bigger/better cars, but in terms of driving like an idiot (rough, sudden, massive steering or braking/accelerating inputs) it was great, massive fun!

PMKeates · 27 Mar 2007 at 17:09

Simon said:
Is that with DSC, ABS, EBD, auto brake drying, auto wipers and auto headlights?

If we count DSC, then even a 760Li is chuckable

TripleT · 27 Mar 2007 at 17:25

Gilly said:
Mine is eminently chuckable. Lower, wider track, harder suspension and better feedback than the slightly more sedate brethren, the 172, it really makes a difference in 'the twisties'. I'd eat Scoobs and **** 306 GTi's

Not me I know but I'd have to agree with what Lowe said regarding "chuckability" but about the GTi6. Whilst it's a great handling car it's a tad on the heavy side and not quite as nimble. Plus with the torsion bar suspension at the back theres always that thought in you head going "You're going to punt me through that hedge backwards in a minute if I get too cocky aren't you". Especially with quick changes of direction.

Maybe that's just me though!