Clock changes: EU backs ending daylight saving

But it's not the same time. Time is relative.
If you tried to keep time fixed on an interplanetary scale you'd rapidly hit problems GPS satellites have to account for the fact they experience time slower than we do on earth.
Earth and mars travel at differnt speeds and rotate at differnt speeds so 1 second on each planet is not the same as 1 second on the other from the others perspective.
IMO that's our inability to measure time. There's only ever one correct answer for how much time has passed. I'd imagine every answer known to man currently is flawed in some way or other.
 
IMO that's our inability to measure time. There's only ever one correct answer for how much time has passed. I'd imagine every answer known to man currently is flawed in some way or other.

Huh? We can measure time just fine.

It's the fact that speed of light is fixed that causes the issue.

Speed =distance over time

Light in a vacuum travels at the speed of light, from all perspectives.

Therefor as speed is unchanged then time has to change for this to remain true.

Its not a measurement issue.
 
Kids walking to school in pitch darkness, what's not to like?

Kids walking to school ? LOL

The historical agrument for changing the clocks was linked to a debunked theory that it would somehow save energy. Enough with the stupid clock changes.

Let's give most people a half decent chance of getting some daylight by leaving the clocks forward and therefore giving some evening light.
 
You got it the wrong way round. The discussion is about getting rid of DST, not GMT. So no change of clock in summer. Winter time wouldn't change - this I counted to the UK governments proposal which was to get “rid” of GMT and move to summer time year round.

The UK sticking with GMT year round is the right way to do it IMO, better than forcing half the population to get up and commute/wall to school in the dark in the morning.
I thought this as well when I read the article.
It’s not about keeping the ‘extra’ hour. If it was one or the other, I would prefer permanent DST as it would mean I would at least have daylight leaving work in winter.
Don’t really see any advantage to losing DST.
Reading the detail, the actual survey was a small percentage of population as well
Having said that, permanent DST in the UK would somewhat confuse the idea of GMT and world time!
 
I would expect that from the tribes north of Watford, but I’m a tad surprised to hear it from a Canadian.
Granted, on my trips to the former Dominion, I’ve never been further West than Toronto, nor further East than Montreal, but they all seemed quite intelligent over there, particularly les Québecois, bonjour mes frères.

Who's Canadian here? Canadians don't have the first understanding of the differences between Tea, dinner, supper, or to be fair, pudding (reserved for some fake custardy type stuff in a yogurt pot. :(

I'm from the South East, admittedly just north of Watford, so maybe that's why tea just slightly entered the eating vocabulary. :p
 
Who's Canadian here? Canadians don't have the first understanding of the differences between Tea, dinner, supper, or to be fair, pudding (reserved for some fake custardy type stuff in a yogurt pot. :(

I'm from the South East, admittedly just north of Watford, so maybe that's why tea just slightly entered the eating vocabulary. :p

Gimme a break, I’m not clairvoyant, your location says Canada, how was
I supposed to know that you meant Canada Road, just north of Watford?
The course after dinner is dessert for regular people, pudding is for
alleged upper middle class types, in BBC TV productions.
 
Kids walking to school ? LOL

The historical agrument for changing the clocks was linked to a debunked theory that it would somehow save energy. Enough with the stupid clock changes.

Let's give most people a half decent chance of getting some daylight by leaving the clocks forward and therefore giving some evening light.

What? Thought it was for the days farmers never had lights on tractors for bringing in the crops.
 
What? Thought it was for the days farmers never had lights on tractors for bringing in the crops.

Yes farmers liked it for this reason.

Thing is the day still has the exact same amount of daylight hours no matter what position you put your clocks at. :) Thus it is a complete waste of time.

However the proposal is to keep the clocks 1 hour forward at all times. I like the idea as it means in Nov and Feb I have the change of getting home during daylight hours.
 
Um...you need to brush up on your physics.

Earth time is man made to an extent. Hence why zero longitude goes through Greenwich, the 'inventors' were British mariners, traders, circumnavigators. The clock is divided into 24 time zones, each approximating to 15 degrees longitude (with geographical leeway in parts for the world to allow for national borders and conventions).

Universal time is based on the speed of light travelling through space but with complications based on the position of the observer.
 
Just read an interesting article in El Pais, which backs up my post regarding Spanish vs German work hours and proves that the UK having times with Europe aligned is pointless from a work day point of view:

https://elpais.com/elpais/2016/03/28/inenglish/1459165488_731020.html?id_externo_rsoc=FB_CM_EN

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I'm confused... I was told Spain works earlier because it was cooler in the morning. They finished by midday because it was then too hot from midday to afternoon heat. They had siestas from the first section of work, then continued working in the evening because it was cooler. Which makes sense for 4 - 8pm.
 
When I worked in Spain in 1979, we were at work at 8.30am, worked until 12.30pm, lunch and siesta until 3.00pm, then worked until 7.30pm - 8.00pm ish with an afternoon break at 5.30pm. Dinner at 9.00pm. This was pre EEC (for Spain), post Franco by a few years and things may have changed since. I was dredging in the Mediterranean port of Santa Pola.
 
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