why? air can still flow into the cockpit from down near the drivers feet and be feeded out somewhere else
Closed cockpit F1
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why? air can still flow into the cockpit from down near the drivers feet and be feeded out somewhere else
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I can see why the FIA are looking at it - but it would also make identifying the drivers a lot more difficult (given the similarities in a lot of the cars , maybe just me but I still struggle telling a RB from a TR just from the car, or between the McLaren drivers ....without looking at the helmets.)
It would be totally understandable, but also sad imo going to any kind of canopy
I have to admit that while "open wheel" is only refering to the chassis design around the wheels - I thought F1 rules stipulated an open area for the driver also. I know a lot of things have changed in the name of safety, especially recently - but even so, I just dont think it would be F1 anymore with a closed car.
It would be totally understandable, but also sad imo going to any kind of canopy
I have to admit that while "open wheel" is only refering to the chassis design around the wheels - I thought F1 rules stipulated an open area for the driver also. I know a lot of things have changed in the name of safety, especially recently - but even so, I just dont think it would be F1 anymore with a closed car.
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why would it mist up?
The sportscars seem to manage!
That said, it'd still look cobblers
Thats because they have AC. Are they going to have a couple of dials on the wheel to control the fan speed and temperature? lol!
why do they need a fan? all it needs is a duct near the drivers feet they will need one to stop the drivers getting to hot in the cockpit anyway
If its passive you loose the ability to control the temperature.
Whilst it may be possible, its simply not allowed. AC in Sports Prototypes is a regulated requirement, so I imagine it would also be for F1.
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please no...........please leave the one bit of danger.
At the risk of a massive thread derailment.... Why?
More often it's to keep things in the front of the chassis cool. Power steering etc.
The ****pits still get to 50°C when open too.
I don't want closed ****pits in F1, if they want to do that, they may as well add wheel fairings and call it Grand Prix GT or F1GT or something like that.
Would adding wheel fairings be that bad though? Ive never seen f1 cars get so close that the wheels from the opposite sides of two cars are inline, and tbh they dont exactly look bad.
Plus less drag and more downforce means better handling and a higher top speed.
Plus less drag and more downforce means better handling and a higher top speed.
It wouldn't work out like this though. The regulations would be designed to keep the speed down.
Perhaps making the move to closed ****pits will make the FIA less keen on knee capping innovation?
I wouldn't bet on it. Innovation costs money and they don't want teams to spend money. Even though it makes no difference, they spend every penny they can. If they ban development. All you get is millions being pumped. Into. Aero for the last 1% of. Perfection. Rather than large gains in other technologies.
The FIA don't knee cap innovation...
They knee cap other peoples innovations. Providing the FIA thought of it first its fine
Lol.
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I do notice however, from watching the little video, that the test isn't strictly scientific, the first being a windscreen, which is only fixed along the bottom edge, and the second, the canopy, which is fixed all the way around.
All it really shows, is that a full canopy, is better than a windscreen. Which is obvious.
All it really shows, is that a full canopy, is better than a windscreen. Which is obvious.
its a wheel beeing pelted toewards a stationary object aswell , i bet its completely different when the wheel is moving along the track at at 30+mph and the canopy is heading towards the wheel at 180mph
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ultimately, all that video shows, is:-
1.) Evidence shows, having no protection, is dangerous (as shown by Massa last year)
2.) A simple windscreen, would not provide enough protection, due to it having a free edge that will be the point of fracture
3.) An ultra modern fighterjet canopy, designed specifically for the purpose, works..
This is also the reason that modern fighterjets, don't have open cocpits or simple windscreens.
basically, the FIA have proven, what is already known..
1.) Evidence shows, having no protection, is dangerous (as shown by Massa last year)
2.) A simple windscreen, would not provide enough protection, due to it having a free edge that will be the point of fracture
3.) An ultra modern fighterjet canopy, designed specifically for the purpose, works..
This is also the reason that modern fighterjets, don't have open cocpits or simple windscreens.
basically, the FIA have proven, what is already known..
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wont happen