Coca Cola

pitchfork · 29 Nov 2013 at 07:54

It's hardly advertised as a health food, we know it's caffiene filled and completely rots your insides.

This really ****ing annoys me, I don't drink coke but out of principal I'm against all this "make junk food healthier" nonsense.

It's like walkers crisps, I remember years ago they used to be good, now they taste like dry cardboard. Back when they were fried in lard and liquid death they were good, but I only ate them occassionally, everything in moderation and all that.

I'm a grown man, I don't need a babysitter.

Outline · 29 Nov 2013 at 08:22

Amp34 said:
Seen how much caffeine is in coffee? Which is worse, caffeine or sugar?

... Probably sugar. In this form, at least. Honestly.

Although there's caffeine in Cola anyway, so I don't think that logic applies.

Freefaller said:
Fructose is metabolised completely differently to refined sugars. So comparing it to fruits is ridiculous.

Coca cola mings anyway - but people like it, let them like it. Just don't try and blame genetics or anything else for your body/metabolism etc....

^

oulton · 29 Nov 2013 at 08:44

cola is full of sugar and caffeine

alcohol is a highly addictive poison produced from rotting plant matter which kills 40x more people in the uk than herioin and ruins countless more lives.

90% of adults drink alcohol. I think that is the real issue we should be looking at.

dannyjo22 · 29 Nov 2013 at 08:57

DAnDan said:
Blame the parents, not the product... It's not like coke are holding the child down and force feeding them it!

Exactly, it's not just coke though. How many parents give their kids chocolate and sweets as soon as they can sit up. My son's 4 1/2 and I have never given him chocolate or sweets. If he goes to a party he gets the toys and cake in the party bag. The rest I take

I wanted him to have the best possible start diet wise and he will demolish vegetables and fruit. Any snacks are carefully chosen. He hasn't developed a sweet tooth at all because we didn't manufacture it. We have grown vegetables together since he was 18 months old.

It's been an incredibly hard 4 years with friends and family battling me like I'm the weirdo. Trying to sneak my son sweets and chocolate and going against my wishes.

Hell will have to have frozen over before I give my son a taste of anything 'fizzy'. There just is no need for it and I wish my parents hadn't let me have it as a kid.

Freefaller · 29 Nov 2013 at 09:10

Oh as much as I bang the health drum, people are responsible for their actions. I don't believe in banning things unless people don't realise what they're doing to themselves - as I think we have a responsibility to one another. However, one thing I cannot stand are people going "ugh I'm unwell/fat/got health issues/etc...." and continue to live a poor lifestyle blaming things other than their own actions.

Theophany · 29 Nov 2013 at 09:18

Freefaller said:
Oh as much as I bang the health drum, people are responsible for their actions. I don't believe in banning things unless people don't realise what they're doing to themselves - as I think we have a responsibility to one another. However, one thing I cannot stand are people going "ugh I'm unwell/fat/got health issues/etc...." and continue to live a poor lifestyle blaming things other than their own actions.

I don't get it man, I'm overweight. I sweat gravy and pee cola, but all I eat is cheeseburgers and they have lettuce in, which is a vegetable. You wouldn't know what it's like because you were blessed with a good body.

Freefaller · 29 Nov 2013 at 09:29

And you're still sexy to me <3

Mucky_Pup · 29 Nov 2013 at 09:34

Was waiting for Paxman to wheel on an oil drum, and extrapolate how much sugar would be in there if it was filled with coca cola, pure sensationalism at it's best. Breaking news: sugary soft drink, contains sugar! And sugar will increase as volume increases. Stop the presses; we need to distribute this information to the masses before they all die from sugar overload, ohh they already know? Nevermind; start the presses!

As been mentioned earlier, everything in moderation. If you think that a "small" cup at a cinema has too much sugar in it, you're welcome to a) not buy it b) buy it and share with a friend or c) buy it and only drink what you deem to a be a suitable ammount for your diet. Forcing the hands of others to appease your own ego and motives is something I can never agree with.

Outline · 29 Nov 2013 at 10:25

Mucky_Pup said:
As been mentioned earlier, everything in moderation. If you think that a "small" cup at a cinema has too much sugar in it, you're welcome to a) not buy it b) buy it and share with a friend or c) buy it and only drink what you deem to a be a suitable ammount for your diet. Forcing the hands of others to appease your own ego and motives is something I can never agree with.

I think the problem comes when the 'small cup at the cinema' is an XXXL gallon of the stuff. We have advertising for it everywhere (not just Cola, all fizzy drinks). Go into a corner store or petrol station and that's almost all that's on offer. It's being thrust at kids as if it's a drink that will hydrate you, a replacement for water.

The fact that sugar is highly addictive and is being thrust at us as if it's normal, from every angle, is the issue here.

Saying that, I'm not particularly for straight up banning it, taking away people's choice. Spreading knowledge would be more worthwhile.

Theophany · 29 Nov 2013 at 10:55

Freefaller said:
And you're still sexy to me <3

Energize · 29 Nov 2013 at 11:21

Freefaller said:
Err.. you haven't got that quite right. And sugars are often refined that go into sweets/cakes etc. And the fructose I'm talking about is the natural sugars found in fruits/veg not used in manufactured foods which has been modified etc.

Fructose is fructose, glucose is glucose, doesn't matter whether it's in coca-cola or fruit. It's basic biochemistry here...

Jono8 · 29 Nov 2013 at 11:24

I have a can of pepsi occasionally with dinner (~twice a week) and that's about it. Sometimes have a pint of it in a pub if I am driving as well.

Like any food/drink it won't hurt you as long as you don't consume excess amounts of it.

Rather than vilifying certain drinks or snacks, they should put more effort into educating people not to drink or eat anything like that in excess.

Freefaller · 29 Nov 2013 at 11:37

Energize said:
Fructose is fructose, glucose is glucose, doesn't matter whether it's in coca-cola or fruit. It's basic biochemistry here...

Yes - but the metabolic pathways for both are subtly different in how they affect your body.

Eitherway, any refined product (be it fructose or not) isn't going to do you any favours in the long term.

=XDC=FluphyBunny · 29 Nov 2013 at 11:45

dannyjo22 said:
.................

Hell will have to have frozen over before I give my son a taste of anything 'fizzy'. There just is no need for it and I wish my parents hadn't let me have it as a kid.

Why, have you been left with health issues?

Edrof · 29 Nov 2013 at 11:51

All I got from the opening video clip is that Paxman's an idiot.

Domo · 29 Nov 2013 at 11:57

I like watching Paxman making politicians squirm. I'd bet most people dread going on Newsnight when he's presenting.

I think most of us are aware cola products aren't healthy but we do have alternatives you know. It's a non issue for me too. We have choice.

dannyjo22 · 29 Nov 2013 at 12:11

=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
Why, have you been left with health issues?

Would I have to be left with health issues that were currently visible for you to see why it's not a good idea? There's no reason for any parent to give coke at home in the house.

If they gave me 5 marlboro per day from 5 years old but currently had no health issues then that would be ok too, after all no harm was done.

I prefer to think more carefully about what I put inside my sons stomach while I have 'control' over it. Too many people just give their kids things to shut them up.

pitchfork · 29 Nov 2013 at 12:30

oulton said:
cola is full of sugar and caffeine

alcohol is a highly addictive poison produced from rotting plant matter which kills 40x more people in the uk than herioin and ruins countless more lives.

90% of adults drink alcohol. I think that is the real issue we should be looking at.

Actually alcohol isn't produced from rotting plant matter, it is produced through the conversion of sugar into alcohols and co2 by yeast colonies through the process of anaerobic respiration.

Additionally, it may kill 40x more adults than heroin, but how many heroin users do you know?

Of all the people you know who drink, this big 90%, how many of them have a problem? Compare that to say all the heroin users you know who have a problem.

God damn, I hate you "I don't need alcohol to have fun" people, nobody does, but it helps a hell of a lot, and ultimately, it is the choice of consenting adults.

CosmicClown · 29 Nov 2013 at 12:32

Jono8 said:
I have a can of pepsi occasionally with dinner (~twice a week) and that's about it. Sometimes have a pint of it in a pub if I am driving as well.

Like any food/drink it won't hurt you as long as you don't consume excess amounts of it.

Rather than vilifying certain drinks or snacks, they should put more effort into educating people not to drink or eat anything like that in excess.

Same shoud apply to drugs too.

oulton · 29 Nov 2013 at 12:56

pitchfork said:
Actually alcohol isn't produced from rotting plant matter, it is produced through the conversion of sugar into alcohols and co2 by yeast colonies through the process of anaerobic respiration.

Additionally, it may kill 40x more adults than heroin, but how many heroin users do you know?

Of all the people you know who drink, this big 90%, how many of them have a problem? Compare that to say all the heroin users you know who have a problem.

God damn, I hate you "I don't need alcohol to have fun" people, nobody does, but it helps a hell of a lot, and ultimately, it is the choice of consenting adults.

Your statements are so riddled with rubbish I can't help but laugh at your stupidity. The official figures for people with a drink problem is 1 in 10. That's a pretty big number of people in the UK. Some may say alcohol decimates the adult population. I would argue that its more like 1 in 5 people, and the older people get, the higher the proportion rises.

You haven't got a clue what you are talking about quite frankly so to label me as you have is further sign of your ignorance. Maybe your brain is rotting?