COD4 vs COD MW2

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:07

Could any1 actually tell me how the game play has changed from COD4 to MW2? because i cant see it, despite from new perks and guns... what has changed? you still cant drive anything, its still info only.... just seems like a few more maps and sum new perks!!

I cant get over how they've had the cheek to charge what they have for this, they havn't created any new engine for it, same old gfx but a little more brighter.... things like the maps, they've taken shipment map and added a few towers and turned the setting to desert! Nothing is new init!!!

Please dont get me wrong, i'm really enjoying playing it but i know that i will get bored again soon, if not quicker than COD4... cos its the same!

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:11

HeX said:
Other than the entirely new single player campaign? or the entirely new Spec-Ops co-op mode? or the entirely new MP maps? or the new interface? or maybe the new weapons they've added? or the new perks? or the new weapon attachments? not forgetting the new (updated) XP system, challenges, skins, game modes, or unlocks...

Sorry all i herd then was bla bla bla..... i'm asking you what has changed on face value.... yes new maps gun's perks as i said.... but the game play is exactly the same..... NOTHING NEW!!!!

Like if i was to say to you... L4D2.... they've added new things to inhance face value gaming such as new zombies, if i was to say Battlefield .... they've added new game modes, new roles, new hardware... while updaing the maps.... whats COD done... taken COD4 and stuck a few new multiplayer maps with a few new guns and perks

TO GURU
I paid £35 for mine, i mean what they charged on the consoles

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:18

Yet again your missing the point, i think the game is great, really enjoying it. I expected like lots of others, to prehaps actually use the hardware instead of calling in air support you actually flew it, or even a tank!.... HELL EVEN COD5 had that.....

Wish people wouldn't get on the defensive all the time, i'm not trying to dis your be-loved game, i'm asking questions on how this is ment to be possibly game of the year when nothing is new it... in fact its probably more basic since as they took away Dedicated servers. ( iam talking about multiplayer here mind not the other single player rubbish, i hate single player so only do multiplayer)

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:22

HeX said:
Oh how defensive! You ask a question you get an answer you don't like so lets belittle it shall we.

Anywho, as many others have said... what did you expect, its a sequel, they tend to just build on what came before, which MW2 has done in ample quantities.

As I said, you have an entirely new single player campaign, an entirely new co-op mode, and a much improved and expanded MP game mode with entirely new maps...

What more do you want from them?

Your examples of L4D2 and BF2 offer no more than what MW2 has done.

L4D2 is new maps - check, new game modes - check, new weapons and skins - check, new enemies - check, new interface - check...

Same goes for BF...

thats not defensive, that bored of hearing the same thing from COD lovers.

All other games have improved a lot, COD4 seems in some sence to have taken a step back.....

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:27

ScarySquirrel said:
What is it with people complaining about sequels not having enough new stuff nowadays? "It should have been DLC!!", WHY?

Surely you knew from the screenshots, reviews, previews, videos, what to expect.

Well for one i expected dedicated servers, 2nd i expected vehicles in multiplayer since as one of the video's they released had the snow buggy + COD5 had tanks. All then new kill streak perks like ac10 etc would have been better for manual use, i expected more co-op when using kill perks..... just wanted more tbh, but hey its not like they over priced the game... oh wait they did! they should have done this as a £9.99 download game, look at BF1943.... it was more or less an update for BF:BC same as MW2 and they sold that for £9.99

Still a good game, but this has a short shelf life

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:34

reflux said:
I had a rant about this in the official thread. It's only just worthy to be called a sequel really, I agree.

Thank you thought i was going nuts!

Yes some of the kill perks are semi manual, but they had the same in COD4 on single player!!! soooo....

Do you at least agree this should have been a £9.99 download? IW must be laughing their heads off saying hahahaha.... we only added a few minor things and guns hahahahah hell we even designed the maps on the same engine hahahahah.... we kicked the PC gamer squre in balls and whats more they think its a sequel aaaaaaaaaahahahah... i can hear them in my head i swear hehe!

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:43

look i'm not trying to start a war or anything, i'm just lost as to how this took 2 years to make, seriously tho how? I just cant understand it, when I look at other downloadable content I just think “WHAT”!!!

The manual use of the kills perks is something they did in COD4... but never put it in multiplay, so this is something they all ready have…. Any1 can get a camera to go to grey TV with a crosshair in the middle and move it back and fore the screen!!!

What I mean by co-op was 2 people flying the plane or chopper would have been something new… that way you both need to call where the enemy is!

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 12:51

reflux said:
No one can deny this is a lazy game. Whilst its good theyve just stuck to a tried and tested formula -theres no innovation really.

ditto, i'm a thick git at times so cant say it like that haha!

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 13:42

Sorry thats what i wanted to add.... sure by now with DICe tearing it up with building destruction... you'd have thought 2 years at work they might have attemped something with regrds to build destruction???

Anyway its clear than most think i'm wrong, so its fine. We are all entitled to our opinions.... i'm gona continue enjoying this till BF:BC2 comes out.... so then you COd players can carry on looking round corners while the BF lot will be blowing holes thro them haha!

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 14:32

m0r94n said:
This. IW have done a lot of work, and a large majority of the exposure got lost during the "boycott". Yes they've removed what some people feel are core elements of the gameplay experience, but they have tried to update a lot of the features found in CoD4.

What I expected from MW2:

1) Vehicle use online
2) Destructible environments....

What did we get more of the same! COME ON PEOPLE CANT YOU SEE THAT!

Take a step back and look at it...

Innovation is the key word imo to a games natural evolution….. MW2 got more of the same….

Innovation is the 2 points I’ve made above, things which completely change the game play!!! Please explain how what i have said is wrong, i really want to know, cos nothing yet has made me think otherwise.

Any1 else agree?

IW FAIL!

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 14:39

Lol @ me, proper rage on.... just get really annoyed how people cant see passed their ignorance sometimes at how bland of an update MW2 is from COD4.. especially as IW absolutely **** on PC gamers!

*GOON bangs his head agaist the wall "why why why why" haha

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 14:44

m0r94n said:
From Half Life 3 I expect virtual reality integration. I'm going to kill Valve if its not implemented .
you sound like a Battlefield fanboy just waiting for a bangwagon to roll along that you can jump on.
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Well done you actually read the other posts then!

Fine, i'm wrong your right....

MW2 is the best ever Sequel in the history of gaming.... its got so many new things in it that i will be playing it non stop for the next 2 years, was the best £35 i've even spent, they certainly are years ahead of any other game play!

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 14:53

m0r94n said:
Good to see you've finally admitted the truth

Indeed, i mean at the end of the day, i'l just follow the great and holy IW... after all they can NEVER get anything wrong!

just last thoughts tho... which one shall i chose..

hmmmm.... massive battlefield's with true war experience while keeping to the FPS genre, with heli's, tanks and TOW's and where you can blow everything on the map up.....

Or

A basic FPS remake of an older FPS game play with a few rubbish new perks.

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 15:02

McGray said:
Where's the innovation in BF:BC2?

Looks like more of the same to me.....

Haha you really want to go there?

Ok just a few....

* destruction 2.0 (not just an update, totally changing warfare.... you can now chip away little holes to shoot thro, you can also take down entire buildings... if enemy are in there, then you get a kill for each one.... amazing and complete innovative!)

* New game modes (2 of which DICE are saving for us to guess)

* New Rank system

* PC designed controls (actually appreciate the difference between console and PC)

* Completly new TYPE vehicle's

Are to name but a few, i'm in work atm, so i'm put the rest on when i get back.

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 15:10

If you read what i said also you'd see that i'm not a complete hater, i play the game on ps3 cos i refused to buy it on PC, but i have played it on PC. Think its fun....

But asked the question " Whats the difference between COD4 and MW2" How this is supposed to be MW2 is beond me, it seems more like Treyarch did a better job on COD5 and they had a lot less money and time.... iw could even put a tank in FFS!

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 15:21

Can i just say... no its not me in that video where that guy loses his head over COD MW2 haha! at least i think its not :confused:

I'm just leaving this now, b4 i get banned. Dont know what else to say.

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 15:27

Kenai said:
continually moaning it doesn't have tanks in it.

What? have you read anything i've said.... i dont remember putting in tanks tanks tank in every reason why....

How can i give a rational response to something i personally dont agree with?

Would you like me to lie and say "Yes i agree with what your saying but...."? Just being honest and a little one side if i am honest which is wrong granted. i can see that and ofc i can see others points of view, i was just putting out some home truths about the game.

[TFU] Thegoon84 · 19 Nov 2009 at 15:38

Sorry but imo my responses have been exactly the same as the first response i received.

For me sarcasm will be met with sarcasm.

Can we just drop this now please? Not because i'm avoiding the replies, i feel my responses have been adequate... Just turning a little personal now and its never nice.