Codemasters STEAM Pricing

many of your are incorrect.

gimpy is right, steam do not set the prices for 3rd party games, the developer does.

"Satine : As with any retailer, Codemasters do NOT control how retailers price their goods. The RRP is set and after that it's up to the individual retailer to decide how much they want to charge for goods - hence why you see such varying prices from retailer to retailer."

^that is just a generic response that doesn't answer gimpy's question in the slightest. that's talking about independant retailers, and not steam or other digital distribution services.


edit, gimpy has just pointed out to you the gap in your claims..^^
 
LOL

So when you go into your local Supermarket and baked beans are reduced and just happen to be at the end of the aisle it is because the supermarket want to out the goodness of their hearts?

Dont talk soo daft.

The manufacturers PAY THEM to do it, it is called a "Promotion".

You have a weekend deal on STEAM, you got put on the STEAM homepage and pretty much the entire gaming community hears about it.

There's also such a thing as shifting old/B-grade stock at reduced price. You know, not a "Promotion" but an excercise to free up space for new stock.

Blimey, I thought you lot were more intelligent than this.

All the CR rep confirms is that "On Steam the official retail RRP is usually matched".

You quote a sentence from another post from which the rep is talking about "Bricks and mortart" retail which we allready know how that works.

What you seemed to have missed is the "As with any retailer" part of the CR's post, which heavily suggests that Steam operates the same as any other retailer.

I'm not denying your claims out right, I'm not saying they're impossible; I'm just replying to your conjecture with my own. Yes, conjecture, because that's all this thread will ever be full of unless someone happens to have the contractual agreement between Valve and Activision handy.

Oh, also, you can keep your "Blimey, I thought you lot were more intelligent than this.".
 
Again, how do you know?

Owing to the obvious NDA's, developers/publishers will rarely talk about their contracts with Valve but there have been numerous articles with developers and Gabe Newell about the platform with reputable websites/publications.

If you piece these articles together, you get a slight insight into how the platform works.

The annoying thing is, and part of the reason why I made this post is that a LOT of these publishers will simply "Hide Behind" the platform thus allowing people to form the wrong conclusions (See this thread-lol) and they get away with it.

There's also such a thing as shifting old/B-grade stock at reduced price. You know, not a "Promotion" but an excercise to free up space for new stock.

None of the big supermarkets will (dare I say) EVER over order on baked beans because of A: Their long shelf life and B: Heinz do not often release new "faster" beans which make the old ones redundant, Nor will they have B-Grade ones they need to shift quickly :p
 
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That's fair shout, sure. I just think it's a little unfair to jump on Codemaster's back for something none of us can possibly be certain on.

Yes, you can speculate and, yes, it would be crappy of CM if they were entirely responsible for the pricing shenanigans but I don't think you can compltely discount Valve from the equation.

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None of the big supermarkets will (dare I say) EVER over order on baked beans because of A: Their long shelf life and B: Heinz do not often release new "faster" beans which make the old ones redundant, Nor will they have B-Grade ones they need to shift quickly :p

Well, yes, beans were (yours, I may add!) a poor vessel for the arguement, but the point still stands. :p
 
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buy it somewhere else if you don't like the price, problem solved!
i usually wait for the "special" offers on Steam for a game which im not to sure about or buy it cheaper at retail if i want something day one.
 
Yeah, nice one, an extremely well thought out contribution to the thread.
No, he's right. Why are you moaning about it on their forums? Seems to me a written letter with a little less vitriol might get you some better answers since you've already assumed people on that forum don't know what they're talking about. If you do write to their sales department, try not to insult them too much.
 
Chris [BEANS];14113007 said:
Just echo what others have said, i appreciate that it's convienient to have games on steam, but it's your personal choice how much this convienience is worth....

My real life example from this afternoon.....

I can buy Company of Heroes Gold, which is the first one, plus the first expansion pack for £16.99, and I can then buy the new (2nd) expansion pack for £29.99 on steam.

This totals £46.98 for the game plus both expansions, they'd be on steam, no disc's to faff about with, all fully patched and ready to go and I'd be playing them by this evening.

However, I found Company of Heroes : Anthology on a large online retailer. This is the original and both expansions for £17.99 inc free delivery.

If I buy from the online retailer I will have to wait 3 or 4 days to get it, I will have to use discs which I would rather not and I will probably have to install patches when it arrives too which depending on size may take some time....

I have ordered from the online place because despite the advantages of steam, to me personally they are not worth the additional £28.99. Some people would think otherwise.

Horses for courses

For COH you ONLY need the disc for install / activation OR if you are not online.

For off line mode you need the disc
 
They seemed to have answered it nicely actually and we've been through Steam pricing more than a few times on this forum.
 
The only reason all digital distribution prices are generally more than retail is because the retailer's apparently would refuse to stock games from anyone if they were cheaper as it would undercut & destroy their business model!!! So the publishers have no choice but to set higher prices than the discounted ones retailer's offer you.

Personally I am never ever going to buy digital downloads unless I have no choice and Steam in particular is my last choice as they knowingly sell broken games. I bought Dark Sector for £14.99 over a month ago and found out the FOV is broken on all widescreen aspect ratios. This causes me to get motion sickness as it really messes up your eyes. Many people have complained on Steam forums and some even had their accounts deleted by Valve when they politely suggested they should not be selling broken games or at least offer refunds so you cannot even complain it seems about someone selling a broken product.
 
To be honest, you sound a bit whiny on the posts on the CM forums

Which bit specifically and please do not reply "All of it".

I'm surprised they even humoured him, frankly. I hope he doesn't write such vitriol in his professional life.

It was hardly vitriolic.

They seemed to have answered it nicely actually

Anyone can answer "nicely" but if the answer is incorrect, it makes the reply pointless does it not?
 
Why did you ask the question if you knew the asnwer?

Can't really deem it incorrect if you ask the question. Surely? :)
 
I did not know the answer, that is why I asked the question.

They have not answered the question yet, evaded the question, maybe.
 
May be due to conversion rate why steam price higher here.

Plus they have server costs, wages to pay, maintenance team, update team etc.

Gotta pay the bills somehow. :p
 
I took it as they were saying their RRP was £30 and so they will sell at that price on Steam, other 3rd party retailers may decide to sell way below the RRP (by reducing their markup), not that Steam decide on the pricing
 
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